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Old 07-23-2008, 10:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Sad Rob but very true. If the results were harmless they (media) could be ignored but there not, which makes it all the more scary!
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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That's what happens when you have a media(filth) which is not answerable to anyone for its actions. Its not elected and yet its more powerful than government in influencing thinking and setting public agenda.
So true but there are occasional setbacks for them such as the " Aguidos" in the Madeleine McCann case and today Mr Mosley who may now have grounds for libel. Just a pity that "wins" such as these are at best neutral for innocent photographers and at worst, have a detrimental spin-off.

When a certain PM, now ex PM, consulted Mr Murdoch, you realise the power of the press. Puts "Citizen Kane" into perspective.

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Old 07-24-2008, 03:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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That's what happens when you have a media(filth) which is not answerable to anyone for its actions. Its not elected and yet its more powerful than government in influencing thinking and setting public agenda.
I had rather a strong impression that it was answerable - very MUCH so - to the Council on Foreign Relations and it's affiliated groups. There's the REAL filth..!! You should look into it. Everyone should. It's probably a good thing to have some inkling how the country is run.

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Old 07-25-2008, 02:10 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
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Lets hope the message gets through to local councils too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/7522016.stm
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You really have to wonder about the mentality of people who would assume that 'attacking paedophiles' would need to make photographs first... I just find that very QUEER.
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Lets hope the message gets through to local councils too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/7522016.stm
I'd have sent in my 7 year old with his camera instead to take pictures instead. THAT would have blown her fuses
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:13 AM   #17 (permalink)
 
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Photographing thugs is 'assault'? I guess that is the difference between citizens, subjects or mere residents, as appears to be the case in Merry Old England since joining the EU. Personally, I would suggest that you Brits dig in your heels and fight to the last man standing on this because if you continue to accept it, it becomes 'acceptable behavior'.
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:04 AM   #18 (permalink)
 
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The moment the European Union accepted to hand over any personal details pertaining people going on a international flights to the US, with the data ending up in the hands of the US security agencies with, from a practical viewpoint no control on what, how and for how long this data is being kept or used, this battle was lost...

I also remember that little but courageous counter action of Brazilian authorities deciding to start to fingerprint and photograph any US citizen arriving on airports in Brazil, infuriating the passengers, but actually, the US had been doing exactly the same thing to Brazilian citizens... Unfortunately, they did not keep it up...

This kind of public protest is the ONLY way to stop this madness... and make the authorities see the ridiculousness of these measures.
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This kind of public protest is the ONLY way to stop this madness... and make the authorities see the ridiculousness of these measures.
Even if you rub their noses in it they won't see it. The can't. They'd all lose their jobs for saying "the emperor has no clothes on". They will make up whatever they have to, regardless of how much trouble it is, to avoid seeing it. I think they have to take a test to get their jobs to begin with. The ones who have any concept of reality are systematically weeded out.

I've just seen far too much of this stuff to be able to pretend that there's not a problem.

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