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    Why is it than in forums there are those that take every opportunity to contradict or shower negative comments against photographers they do not like. I am not talking criticism here - it feels like vendetta somehow. And yet those that complain have nothing concrete to show the community of large or small format photographers. I have this view about these people: when all reason fails, the answer is envy, jealousy and inadequacy. It is certainly getting tiring to read threads in other forums where the topic degenerates, I feel, into a fight for validation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francesco
    - the answer is envy, jealousy and inadequacy. It is certainly getting tiring to read threads in other forums where the topic degenerates, I feel, into a fight for validation.
    And as the Perfessor said, "In ten thousand years, mankind has not changed a bit".

    I think I know the example you are talking about Francesco, the one concerning workshops. It is truly a shame and not warranted. I wish Forum Moderators would take a heavier hand and summarily ban those few who are the "usual suspects". Let those "usual suspects" cry/whine all they want to but make it emphatically clear that their inappropriate behavior is not tolerated. Just my opinion of course.

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    As has been stated before "Those who know do not say. Those who say do not know".

    Or as it applies to photography...it is a heck of a lot easier to talk about photography then it is to hang them on the wall.

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    "Critics are like eunuchs in a harem: they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."

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    Quote Originally Posted by c6h6o3
    "Critics are like eunuchs in a harem: they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."
    Very Well Stated!!

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    Or: "Critics are to artists as pigeons are to statues."
    I love the smell of fixer in the morning. It smells like...creativity!
    Truly, dr bob.

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    Francesco,

    I'm sure you know who you are taking about, and perhaps your comments could be taken as devisive.

    Personally, I like to see any exchange of ideas, because that's what a forum is. There are plenty of areas for chemical info, technique info, etc.

    Ethics and philosophies and off topic discussions are for people to express their ideas and opinions. I find those various ideas and opinions as interesting and informative as any area on this site.

    Just on opinion.


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    Mike,

    I agree with you completely. Sharing of ideas and criticism is invaluable. Which is why I post my hard earned pictures for perusal quite regularly - I wish to learn and to keep on learning. I wish to be criticised by anyone. I respect the advise I receive.

    BUT in my opinion, that thread (of which most know which one) that caused me to start this one, FELT like no debate or exchange of ideas or constructive criticism I have ever engaged in. It felt like a game of WHO WILL WIN THIS TIME.
    Francesco

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    Francesco, I have looked at your past posts and I can't find the offending thread. Where is it so I can get up to speed on this issue before commenting.

    Is this the situation that led to Jorge's departure?
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    Eric, I don't know either.

    Damn, a dust up that I missed out on.

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