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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugazi Dave
    What makes art dangerous
    Lampoon me in a cartoon and you'll see what it means to be dangerous!
    It bothers me to the point that in my serigraphy class last spring I made a few t-shirts emblazened with the words "FUCK ART" in 4" capitals on the front. I wear them proudly to this day.
    Ok them's fighting words dude. We'll see you out in the parking lot...
    Quote Originally Posted by SteveGangi
    Art, whatever the heck it is, is not in any danger.
    I may be paranoid at times though.
    Art (whatver it is) changes (a bit), and stays the same (a bit).
    I'm a chameleon that way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Sukach
    Do your own thing - and save art
    Please send all money to my Aston Martin Foundation Fund.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryl Jacobs
    Damn, I'm glad I never went to art school.
    Cheryl, once you've been schooled in Art, you won't go back!
    Quote Originally Posted by David H. Bebbington
    Art is dangerous.
    Be afraid. Be very afraid.
    Quote Originally Posted by rhphoto
    I'm so sick of "art" having to be some kind of ridiculous socio-political-aesthetic contortionism in order to have "relevance" or to be the kitsch of the minute.
    Look, I exist. Deal with it buddy.

    Art.
    Visit my website at www.ArtLiem.com
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    a correction. (L.A. Gang War?)

    haha! Sorry - but I had to bust you! Acconci...?? No way, man... that was Manzoni - Piero Manzoni. "Merda de l'Artista". But I love Acconci too! Have you seen his "following piece" (he would videotape himself following someone within a range of one meter until there was a 'confrontation' - then quickly turn around and start following someone else!). Kinda brilliant in my books. The "come inside" piece is pretty hilarious too (though you'd have to have seen it I think, to know what I'm talking about!). Those italians. Can't keep 'em down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kino
    As for art being "dangerous", that's a bunch of post-modernist, shock-jocky, bulls**t! The best cure for that is to yawn, it drives them crazy when they are not controversial! ;-)
    A curious conclusion to a posting which I would otherwise agree with!

    The quality I am looking for in art, as I have mentioned elsewhere, is the attitude of challenging preconceptions, trying to achieve new vision, asking questions, leaving the viewer to find answers. I personally find this stimulating, people of a conservative turn of mind find it dangerous (which is why, in response to someone else's question. there are people who are vehement in their condemnation of contemporary art and their dismissal of contemporary artists as shysters - you're hearing the sound of someone way out of their comfort zone and not liking it).

    Just to be clear - I personally have no illusions as to how "dangerous" I am as a 57-year-old white male middle-class freelance professional working with large industrial corporations. I am not (never was) a lunatic-fringe performance artist flinging buckets of bloody entrails at my audience, my inclination even as a young man was to initiate dialog rather than confrontation. However, I am just as committed now as I was 40 years ago to art which does something different, something new, and generates fresh perspectives. This is something I need for my personal sanity, as my main professional work (industrial journalism and copywriting) consists for the most part of delivering slick products and performing tasks which I can do exceedingly well because I have done them so many times before. I sure don't object to the money I'm paid for this, but if I did ONLY this I'd die of boredom.

    Someone else said that there's nothing wrong with excellence in craft skills - no, there isn't, and as a trained professional photographer I enjoy this. However, exercise of craft skills ALONE without something new to say is absolutely not for me - it can be fun and fulfilling for the practitioner concerned, for me it's just sterility (but I would never criticize anyone for invoking their inalienable right to do what the hell they want!).

    Regards to all,

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Sukach
    He was hauled in court for obscenity and producing pornography.
    so was Schiel

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    "Love" is a dangerous

    Equally abused and as hard to define as art, it is still an important concept.
    art is about managing compromise

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    Quote Originally Posted by David H. Bebbington
    A curious conclusion to a posting which I would otherwise agree with!
    Sorry, that was an abrupt about-face there, but I was recalling a particular mindset of some University student artists I met in my decade of University service who tended to feel less than successful if you are not shocked and outraged by their work. In the end, I wound-up being annoyed by their work because of the association with childish behavior and an inability to take praise!

    Nothing like a sore winner, eh?

    To balance that, I do know and have met many artists who are comfortable in their work and are interested in just about any reaction they cause; even boredom.

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