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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Camper View Post
    "If a person uses best practices to archive their digital data, it will far, far out last film negatives."

    Well, what do you think these guys were doing, monkey business. These were experts, and 15 years later the data was Goooone! Please read, or wake up. And further down the same article was mentioned.... "The space agency Nasa has already lost digital records sent back by its early probes (I'd say these were important enough to protect), and in 1995 the US government come close to losing a vast chunk of national census data, thanks to the obsolescence of its data retrieval technology. "

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/ma...arch.elearning
    I am a digital content expert in archival, with 33 years experience.

    I know much more about this issue then those that wrote that article, and those the article was written about.

    In fact, those people that lost their data are stupid.

    Don't be so quick to believe anything you read, that jabs digital....often people WANT to find bad about digital archival and the milli-second after they find "proof" in on the internet, they scream with glee "see, ah told ya so".

    You assume wrongly that agencies with famous acrinyms like NASA, and the CIA, are experts and know what they're doing. Well, surprise, surprise, often they don't.

    Don't be so gullible.
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    A thought about how film fits in our world.

    Jesus dude, you're really something else.
    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

    http://www.flickr.com/kediwah

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    I know someone who works in a high-performance supercomputer facility, the largest, most powerful computer dedicated to medium-range weather forecasting in the world. Every day they get GB worth of data sent from satellites, which are crunched by the computer's weather model to make a workable weather forecast. All the data before and after has to be stored archivally. What they use is not some fancy solid-state drive, whose reliability is often trumpeted in tech press. Instead, they use huge analogue tapes, about as big as a VHS (a little wider), each carrying 1TB of data. These are kept in a robot which can access anything on there, anytime.

    Goes to show that analogue technologies are still the most reliable in our world. Perhaps one day solid-states drives will catch up, but that day hasn't come yet.

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    Those aren't analog tapes. They are storing digital information on them just like they were hard drives.
    f/22 and be there.

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    The point is not the type of data stored on there but the medium - an age-old one rather than the brand new hard drives used to back up digital files, including pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverGlow View Post
    I am a digital content expert in archival, with 33 years experience.

    I know much more about this issue then those that wrote that article, and those the article was written about.

    In fact, those people that lost their data are stupid.

    Don't be so quick to believe anything you read, that jabs digital....often people WANT to find bad about digital archival and the milli-second after they find "proof" in on the internet, they scream with glee "see, ah told ya so".

    You assume wrongly that agencies with famous acrinyms like NASA, and the CIA, are experts and know what they're doing. Well, surprise, surprise, often they don't.

    Don't be so gullible.
    Yeah, we're all experts like yourself. Stupid is listening to your nonsense. Stupid is believing in one technology, when it is safer in the long term to have a film and digital backup (scan). Stupid is not accepting I already lost files in WORD, BASICA. Stupid is believing that technology, file formats, will never change. Sorry, I'll trust my own instincts. Stupid is promoting the benefits of digital, when digital has no affordable options to match the quality of large format film. Do you have a P65 digital back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Camper View Post
    Yeah, we're all experts like yourself. Stupid is listening to your nonsense. Stupid is believing in one technology, when it is safer in the long term to have a film and digital backup (scan). Stupid is not accepting I already lost files in WORD, BASICA. Stupid is believing that technology, file formats, will never change. Sorry, I'll trust my own instincts. Stupid is promoting the benefits of digital, when digital has no affordable options to match the quality of large format film. Do you have a P65 digital back?
    Van Camper, you used the word "stupid" four times!

    And do you use your large format at a sporting event such as basketball, soccor, baseball? Weddings? How stupid!

    You lost WORD files so digital sucks? God forbid you take any blame, right? How stupid. You think it bad if file formats change? How stupid. You trust your own instincts? I prefer to go with science, reality, fact, objectivity, ....to go otherwise is stupid.

    Film is great....and so are other mediums, and there is proof of this all over our world, in museums, millions of photo albums...to disrespect any other meduim is plain stupid.
    Coming back home to my film roots. Canon EOS-3 SLR, Canon EOS 1V SLR, 580ex flash, and 5D DSLR shooter. Prime lens only shooter.

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