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    Photographer banned for creeping out folks

    Thought this story would stir some interest.

    http://consumerist.com/2010/03/amate...eople-out.html

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    I think that getting people to grow intolerant towards 'freedom' is a pretty easy way to free up law enforcement money. You know - 1984 and all that... I see it as a symptom of fear mongering. But I guess in the end - it really all depends on what kinds of messages are come across in terms of the interaction between photographer and photographee, etc. We don't really know the whole story - so it's kind of impossible to judge I think....

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    hey jon

    i don't think it is fear mongering, or anything like that ...

    SNIP

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    We don't really know the whole story - so it's kind of impossible to judge I think....
    i think you said it ...

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    A 400mm lens could have saved this guy his problems.

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    Well part of the thing though, John - is you HAVE to admit - events like Sean Penn punching out a paparrazzo has created a general decrease in tolerance toward photographers - but also - and more importantly - stories we got post 9/11 about things like "be on the lookout for suspicous people with cameras, etc" has, I BELIEVE, created something of a climate of fear toward photogs and videographers etc. Added to this (I think this might be a bit of an obscure point) the extremely heightened sense of media awareness people seem to have these days - presenting 'image savvy' pictures on their facebook or myspace profiles etc - I think some people object to not being in full control of how they are perceived etc... but yes - I defer to "you never know" in this particular case. I just wanted to raise a point or two about the way pictures and media are being used in our society and how it's been radically changed in the last decade or two...

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    A link to my posting of the original Seven Days article

    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum50/6...tml#post960255

    More comments have been posted there.

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    You know, I've got to side with the coffee shop here. According to the story, this guy has been doing this for a long time and he probably gets his kicks making other people feel uncomfortable. I like to take pictures of people in public too, but if I see that they're uncomfortable or annoyed, I'll stop. There is this little thing called common courtesy that too many people these days seemingly were never taught. Or is it just cool to be rude and obnoxious?
    Frank Schifano

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Wilson View Post
    Thought this story would stir some interest.

    http://consumerist.com/2010/03/amate...eople-out.html


    Welcome to Amerika.


    Quote Originally Posted by fschifano View Post
    You know, I've got to side with the coffee shop here. According to the story, this guy has been doing this for a long time and he probably gets his kicks making other people feel uncomfortable. I like to take pictures of people in public too, but if I see that they're uncomfortable or annoyed, I'll stop. There is this little thing called common courtesy that too many people these days seemingly were never taught. Or is it just cool to be rude and obnoxious?
    I generally agree here - but for them to bring legalities into it I find to be a bit over the top.

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    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

    http://www.flickr.com/kediwah

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    Also, here's the guy's flickr page:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/38261591@N06/

    General disjunct street style photography. Not really anything to write home about - but definitely nothing to be creeped out about either.


    Also, concentrate on the information presented:

    "The following Monday, March 1, a Burlington police officer again showed up at Scott’s workplace, and this time issued him a one-year universal trespass order that bans him from 67 establishments on the Church Street Marketplace. If Scott enters any of them, he could be arrested."

    Sorry, but that's just bullshit. You can't ban a guy from the entire place just because people don't like the fact that they're being photographed.
    Last edited by clayne; 03-15-2010 at 10:25 PM.
    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

    http://www.flickr.com/kediwah

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    As long as the photographer observes the letter of the law, creepy or no, he is within his rights to photography on public properties, especially in light of the many public dollars that have and are going into this mall/project.

    He should take legal action for civil rights violations, against all involved, if for no other reason than to keep 'officials' and business folk from doing away with our rights completely, through the indifference of the public at large. After all, who's to say in all honesty, that they are forever safe from being perceived as 'creepy' by whomever might cast their eyes upon them as they make a photograph on the street? Harassment of photographers by police and 'rent-a-cops' is much too common these days and we must push back if we are to keep our rights as free of restrictions as possible.

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