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    Buying more cameras VS buying more film

    I've been thinking about this for some time now. But don't you guys think that it would be better to buy more film (instead of more cameras). I've seen in some threads (here and on flickr), you know, those "list your cameras" threads that pop up from time to time, people who own a busload of cameras (why?) and go on about their next purchase. I think one of the biggest problems we have as film users is GAS.

    I know there are some bargains to be had but still (do you really need five 35mm cameras?)

    I've written off owning a LF camera, or any extra cameras (lenses are a different horse of course), in favour of buying (fresh) film instead.

    I know most of you will probably read this thread and think: "screw him, I'll just buy some more cameras." and I don't care, but I hope that some of you will at least next time think twice before placing a bid, buying or what not.

    What to you guys & gals think? Am I wrong to think this?

    (if this is the wrong forum, mods you may move or delete it)

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    If I want to do a side by side comparison of HP5+, Delta 400 and Delta 3200 shot at 1600 with 35mm cameras then the easiest thing for me to do is load up 3 bodies and go shoot the same thing three times, swapping a body on the tripod, using the same lens for consistency. With MF I could just swap 3 backs.

    Perhaps I want autofocus/autoexposure some days but want pure manual other days? Small camera/big camera?

    Honestly 35mm camera bodies are so cheap these days that they don't buy much film. Many pro packs cost more than a 35mm body today!
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    So I'm wrong? Ok so maybe 35mm was bad example. If its that cheap by all means go ahead, but it still feels some of us are killing film this way?

    Look I also use more than one 35mm body (for different types of film) but buying a camera just for having ALOT's sake seems wrong.

    But I get your point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricus.stormfire View Post
    Am I wrong to think this?
    Not entirely, but sometimes another camera helps use more film. For instance, I had two Nikons, good cameras, but heavy. I decided I wanted something better for taking with me on my bike, so I got an Olympus. So I shoot more when I ride. I got a second Nikon to begin with so that I could have two different films loaded (why don't 35mm cameras come with interchangeable backs like MF gear?).

    And there is that some cameras are so cheap now that the cost doesn't really make a difference; time is much bigger constraint for me right now.

    Why should lenses be a different story? Some are quite expensive! Heck, the lens I bought for the OM-1 cost a lot more than the body did.
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    Yeah maybe I'm just projecting my own faults/fears here...I dunno

    Lenses, well no point in owning say five bodies but only one lens (or five of the around the same focal length...) you might have a different opinion, (but that^^^^ was mine)

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    I have 3 35mm slr for the only reason that I like them!

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    Look two or three 35mm slrs are fine (I use two 35mm bodies, Hp5+ in one, Fp4+/Delta 100 in the other myself) but when is too much, TOO MUCH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricus.stormfire View Post
    Look two or three 35mm slrs are fine (I use two 35mm bodies, Hp5+ in one, Fp4+/Delta 100 in the other myself) but when is too much, TOO MUCH?
    It is too much when you decide it is too much.

    I have a Nikon Problem, and I also have a Kodak camera problem, I admit it freely.

    I own 6 Nikon 35mm bodies, could I do without a few of them, sure, but there is a reason for each of them.

    I have an FM and an FA for those manual focus days, and I can carry both easily with a different lens on each so I don't have to swap lenses, or I can carry two different films in them, I hike in the woods a lot, and the two film approach is something I do a lot. I do the same with my N90s and the N8008s, and I have an N65 for when I might need a built in flash, I have strobes, but sometimes they are impractical. I also have a Nikonos V for rainy days, or when I am hanging with the fishes underwater.

    With the Kodaks, I have two 35mm Stereo cameras, one is quirky so it spends a lot of time as a backup.

    I have a Zeiss Ikon Contessa LKE as well, but that needs to be serviced so it does nothing but sit in a box waiting to be shipped out.

    Those are all my 35mm bodies and or cameras, they are all tools and they all do something better than the others.

    As for film, I have over 50 rolls of the stuff in the fridge, and I have no plans of buying another camera any time soon, in fact I just donated a Canon AS-6 (35mm underwater) and a Kodak Brownie Autographic #2 (120 film) to a camera giveaway so they could go to a new home and see more film than I was feeding them. I shoot all my cameras regularly, those two only saw about 10 rolls of film each this year so they were sent to a good home. Honestly, right now if something caught my eye and I had to have it I would sell whatever I was using it to replace. Well, maybe I could use a second Nikonos V but those take up a lot of storage space so they are easy to turn down.
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    I'd offer some additional logic, while manufacturers are running from making film at, say, 10 miles an hour, everyone except for Holga appears to be running from manufacturing bodies at about 100 miles an hour. How many models of Canon 35mm are still being made? Nikon? How many production runs do you think Schneider is making for LF lenses a year? at what cost?

    I'd say that, for enthusiasts who are worried about the disappearance of the medium, getting the gear you want is every bit as important as getting the film to stick in it. It appears to me that there are a few companies dedicated to staying alive with film (ilford, foma, the formulary, etc.) but I don't see Canon, Nikon, Hassie, Mamiya, Pentax, Calument, Kodak, or anyone other gear maker taking great pains to continue their lines of film cameras, and if they are, I can only imagine that the production is low and price is high due to lack of economies of scale.

    Thinking about it another way, it appears as of late that film gear has much appreciated in price - I think this might be a signal to manufacturers of both film and gear that - 1. Film is still popular and 2. there might still be plenty of profit in it.

    In conclusion - all you guys need to spend lots of cash on both film and gear! (just not the particular film and gear I'm bidding on)


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    It would have been really hard to turn down my latest acquisition - a 10 year old autofocus Canon EOS SLR with Canon 28-90mm EF lens that the thrift store only wanted $20.00 for.

    It is my first and only AF SLR, and the youngest camera I own.

    I would have been stronger if it had been an OM-1 - I have 5 OM bodies already.

    Now if it had been an OM-4 or OM-3 - I'd probably have been weak .
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