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    Sounds like a fair verdict and I cannot see how it could ever have been in doubt really. It also represents a court's unwillingness to believe that, as one person put it, 'juvenile scribblings' constitutes a complete change and rework of the original. I have no sympathy for Prince whatsoever. After all, if Cariou's work was essentially a 'mere compilation of facts' the least Prince could have done was get off his @ss and produce his own 'mere compilation of facts' from which to work. Even if the originals were 'factual' they were Cariou's 'factual compilations.' Prince's legal position also suggests that a lay person cannot really claim to own something they made unless someone else (read lofty artist like Prince) regards it is 'sufficiently creative as to earn the status of a meaningful creation.' The arrogance is astonishing and as pretentious as the art world can be, I can't help but feel that prince has ruined his credibility in court. There is nothing cool about showing a total lack of respect for other people and the value of their work, while essential admitting you thought you set the value of other people's creations.... and can take at will those things you do not rate highly. For justice to be served, this ought to be the end of Prince's career.

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    There's a better article here at PDN on-line:

    http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/news/Ap...ist-2241.shtml

    Maybe misappropriation-artist from now on?

    Raul

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    J can tell, I got in on this thread wa-a-a-y late.Is there a place a non-artist,some one like - well my self, is still able to view the offending pictures? Side by side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Robin View Post
    J can tell, I got in on this thread wa-a-a-y late.Is there a place a non-artist,some one like - well my self, is still able to view the offending pictures? Side by side?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/artinf..._b_839619.html

    Has some images side by side and a short interview with Cariou. If you Google "Prince and Cariou" more stories pop up, most have some images.

    I like that Cariou isn't trying to cash in right away on the notoriety of the trial. In the above interview he says:

    I'm not looking for instant recognition in my work. I'm trying
    to make my work and be as good as I can be, and then let it grow
    into what it's going to become.


    That's a great quote.

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    Richard Prince's appeal was heard today...

    http://www.artinamericamagazine.com/...ral-arguments/


    Could take up to a year for the verdict
    Andy

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    Hopefully the verdict will stand.

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    Weak verdict.

    Should have been executed.

    With a stolen bullet.
    I couldn't think of anything witty to say so I left this blank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsas View Post
    Richard Prince's appeal was heard today...

    http://www.artinamericamagazine.com/...ral-arguments/


    Could take up to a year for the verdict
    Verdict today, per below article, "Artist Richard Prince won a significant victory on appeal in the landmark intellectual property case Cariou v. Prince today."

    http://www.artinamericamagazine.com/...opyright-suit/
    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsas View Post
    Verdict today, per below article, "Artist Richard Prince won a significant victory on appeal in the landmark intellectual property case Cariou v. Prince today."

    http://www.artinamericamagazine.com/...opyright-suit/
    Unbelievable. I do not understand the "fair use" aspect they refer to in this article.
    I also cannot believe that buyers are paying up to 10 million for those crappy pieces Prince is calling art.

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    I'm not surprised. Warhol, Lichtenstein, etc., were appropriating way back when. Though I am not surprised at the reversal, it doesn't mean I agree w it
    Andy

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