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    To me if someone earns money doing something then he/she is a professional and someone who doesn't earn money is an amateur period. Skills isn't what distinguishes a profesional and an amateur.
    another thing. If someone use whatever mean to deliver a good product to the customer be it cheating with the digital camera or buying the mechanical loom then they are good business person. One only needs to deliver, however one goes about doing it is irrelevant. One should seek to get the job done as easily and as inexpensively as possible. That's all good business sense.

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    Meaning of words change over time and professional may be one that now means earning a living doing something.
    But the definition I learned and is: Have specialized skills (1), receive ongoing training (2), earn the majority of your income from this skill(3).
    Once upon a time there were apprentice programs. They had 2 and 3 but could not be professional until the training and test were completed. Most states that issue Professional Certifications apply something close to my definition.

    Making a living doing something does a professional make.
    D-76 is a standard developer, although not one I use.
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    I don't see how anyone could possibly be embarrassed by using a film camera. What is so embarrassing with using an iconic film such as Kodachrome or Tri-X or FP4+? What could possibly cause me to feel bad about following in the footsteps of Photogaphers like Edward Weston, Imogene Cunningham, Ansel Adams and others too numerous to count?
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    She's always out the window, When it comes to making Dreams.

    It's all mixed up, It's all mixed up, It's all mixed up."

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    Quote Originally Posted by markbarendt View Post
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    Funny you should mention restaurants. My daughter was watching a cooking show yesterday and they interviewed the owner of the restaurant. He had no kitchen skills, he just wanted a very specific vintage restaurant. He hired everything out to people very skilled in their craft.

    A good friend of mine owns a small but successful trucking business and he doesn't even have a license that will let him drive the trucks.

    There's no reason a successful professional photography business can't be run the same way.
    Of course a photography business could be run very successfully that way. But the question I would then ask would be, "who is the photographer, the business owner, the semi-skilled guy who prints out the ink jet prints or runs the processing machine, or the person at the camera who actually understands exposure and composition?"

    I would say the one who understands exposure and composition. Of course it's possible none of them do and they just rely on automation, in which case I'd argue it's quite possible to have a successfully business built around photography without anyone involved in said business actually being a photographer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Cole View Post
    I would say the one who understands exposure and composition. Of course it's possible none of them do and they just rely on automation, in which case I'd argue it's quite possible to have a successfully business built around photography without anyone involved in said business actually being a photographer!
    Yep, the photographer might be the consultant that designed the setups and provided a checklist for the owner.
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    It is not the tool that makes, or does not make, one a photographer.

    If you are trying to make a living as a photographer, then you need to adopt a business model that will let you turn a profit in today's market.

    Otherwise do what suits you best. I just returned from a Florida trip. I only took my Mamiya 645 Super. (Plus lenses and backs.). It's heavy, bulky, and a joy.

    I've run out of battery in digicams, and I have run out of film in real cams. Left the digicams home, and had plenty of film and the ability to get more.

    Personally, I like the sound of that big ol' mirror and shutter, and the winder advancing to the next frame. Although I didn't notice, my wife tells me I drew quite a few onlookers over my shoulder when I changed backs and loaded film. (Never crossed my mind that some kids had never seen this before.)

    Would I do it again? Yes, on my very next trip.

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    It depends on the location ...



 

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