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    Bid Tinkering on eBay

    I've been trying to buy an enlarger lens from eBay for about a week, now. I notice that there seems to be some "funny stuff" going on and it's pissing me off!

    First, there is this lens (El-Nikkor 80 mm.)
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...OIBUAA:US:1123

    Started out low and ended high but that's not the problem. There seems to be a shill bidder who pushed up the price. He's a new bidder. Never bid on anything else and has a "0" rating. Near the end of the auction, he comes in and bids four times, consecutively, even though he's the highest bidder.

    Second, this auction (El-Nikkor 80 mm.)
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...OIBUAA:US:1123

    Again started out low but, this time, with a high reserve.
    Ends up going for $65. Okay, not so bad. You win some and you lose some.
    But, literally, 24 hours later, the same seller posts the same lens for the same price.

    Okay... Maybe I'm acting a little bit like sour grapes because I didn't get a price as cheap as I want. I would be willing to pay more if the bidding seemed honest but it seems to me like somebody is playing around.

    What's your opinion?
    Do you think somebody's tinkering with the bids or am I really acting like sour grapes?
    Randy S.

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    Maybe there is fraud there, and the tease of a good price is annoying. But in the long run, if the seller wants to keep holding the lens for ransom, we can't do anything about it. Fight back by ignoring overpriced stuff. Don't give in, bid low.

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    Have you reported this to eBay?

    You should. It's expressly forbidden by the rules for eBay auctions.

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    I doubt anyone's tinkering with these. Maybe on the former but I doubt it. If you compare the latter to the newly listed lens, the seller gives a different serial number. Of the two bidders on the second, one is the person who lost the first lens - is that you?

    Dan

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    I look at ebay like buying a raffle ticket. I much rather buy from a reliable retailer even if the price were higher. I buy through KEH and they a a very reasonable warranty and quick service.

    HowardDvorin

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    BTW: Going price for that lens is between $60 and $80. (Plus or minus about a third-stop.) I'm not unwilling to pay the price but, when I think I see irregularity in the bidding I just pull the plug all together.

    My eBay name is rws235 (r***5).
    When I saw the bidding start to go too high on the first one, I knew I wouldn't take it and I didn't want to get trapped by bid tinkering so I went for the second one.
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    Shills and other stunts are annoying. Just walk on if you can't/won't play. Like buses, another one will come along soon.

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    Yeah, that's what I'll do.

    I should have bought this lens a month ago but I have to watch the budget. Now, I kind of "need" it more. I have a Schneider 80 mm but it's old and cloudy and it's not as sharp as it should be. Now I have prints I want to make and I'm feeling a bit antsy to get a better lens.
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    Pick a number that you are willing to pay, wait until the last ten seconds and then put in the bid. If it is too low, another will be along before too long. If no one else is bidding, the you get it at a knock down price and you don't fall in to a bidding war or get taken for a ride by the shills.

    Scored a 150mm lens for less than £20 including shipping that way - Took a few attempts, but I got one after a couple of months.

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    It's easy to succumb to the bidding rush but pointless if the bid snipers have an item in their crosshairs.

    As the frau often tells me, "It's not like you're on dialysis and buying spare parts for a busted machine."

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