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    pet peeve - photoshop being recommended

    Hopefully this doesn't come off as a rant but I've noticed something in the last couple weeks that has me a bit puzzled.

    Recommendations for using photoshop in image critiques.


    In general I am a bit surprised when someone recommends specific tools/methods for improving an image. When their recommendation is to use PhotoShop.. well.. can't we rig a hand to come out of the monitor and slap them?

    This site is about using traditional photographic methods. Telling someone they could fix some problem you see with their photo using PhotoShop makes no sense.

    I could go on, and on but then I'd really start to sound like someone who'd spent too much time alone in the dark.

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    Ditto.


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    It's alright for you darkroom equipped people, mine is still a building plot, so I'm currently struggling to print an inkjet of a Photoshop mangled image for a club competition due at the end of the week. It is not going at all well, and I'm completly pissed-off with the process. It's sympathy I need here, by the processing drum load. Having said that, the forty-something print attempt has just fallen out of the printer and is looking good - or at least as good as it gets. It will have to do, where's the matt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ian_greant
    Hopefully this doesn't come off as a rant but I've noticed something in the last couple weeks that has me a bit puzzled.

    Recommendations for using photoshop in image critiques.


    In general I am a bit surprised when someone recommends specific tools/methods for improving an image. When their recommendation is to use PhotoShop.. well.. can't we rig a hand to come out of the monitor and slap them?

    This site is about using traditional photographic methods. Telling someone they could fix some problem you see with their photo using PhotoShop makes no sense.

    I could go on, and on but then I'd really start to sound like someone who'd spent too much time alone in the dark.
    I would only recommend such to get the scan to look like the print, knowing how poorly a raw scan looks for the most part. We do have to have a digital representation of our work to post online. I get annoyed when I see something done in photoshop with an image that is darn near impossible to do in the darkroom and then passed off as a straight scan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Miller
    It's alright for you darkroom equipped people, mine is still a building plot, so I'm currently struggling to print an inkjet of a Photoshop mangled image for a club competition due at the end of the week. It is not going at all well, and I'm completly pissed-off with the process. It's sympathy I need here, by the processing drum load. Having said that, the forty-something print attempt has just fallen out of the printer and is looking good - or at least as good as it gets. It will have to do, where's the matt.
    Dave - You must remember to stop trying to inkjet print on RC is just doesn't work, even on the back I've tried it for postcards

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPPhotog
    Dave - You must remember to stop trying to inkjet print on RC is just doesn't work, even on the back I've tried it for postcards
    Dam! Is that why the inks running?

    Anyway I've given up and retired into a dark corner to sulk, so there.
    Regards Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Miller
    Dam! Is that why the inks running?

    Anyway I've given up and retired into a dark corner to sulk, so there.
    If that corner is dark enough try running off a few wet prints whilst your sulking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Miller
    It's alright for you darkroom equipped people, mine is still a building plot, so I'm currently struggling to print an inkjet of a Photoshop mangled image for a club competition due at the end of the week. It is not going at all well, and I'm completly pissed-off with the process. It's sympathy I need here, by the processing drum load. Having said that, the forty-something print attempt has just fallen out of the printer and is looking good - or at least as good as it gets. It will have to do, where's the matt.
    Sorrry, but I have no sympathy. I said it before. If the inclusion of digital was allowed in this site, it would spill into the main areas. I was ridiculed and told I was stridently anti digital. Well, here is the result.

    People telling other people to use PS to "fix it", people just showing negative scans, shown as positives. Etc, etc...

    You want to dicuss your ink jet problems, do it in forums appropriate for that. I am sorry your light room is not working for you, but I have no sympathy for you.

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    Jorge I fail to see the difference between scanning a print, scanning a positive slide or scanning a negative and inverting to positive. If the scan is manipulated then I agree but we have to get them up here somehow. But I get the feeling this has all been discussed before in the posting you refer to in passing.

    Btw Dave's humurus comment I'm sure was meant as such

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