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    British shopping centres free up photo policies

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-15251848

    Last week in Sydney a person in the public gallery of a court proudly snapped a picture of a relative who was on the jury. So far the NSW court system has not adopted a similar policy. The trial was not aborted but very nearly so.

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    The folks in this shopping center should really ask themselves how they could call the cops on a guy who photographed his own kid with a mobile phone camera. It's all nice an dandy that they changed the official policy now, but someone needs to look a bit deeper at this brain damage. This was not one failed policy at work here, but a whole chain of complete brain failures up to the cop mentioning Anti Terrorism laws.

    Good grief!
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    I don't suppose for a minute that the change of policy had anything to do with the boycott via the internet

    The "offender"( this country's full of such serious and dangerous criminals) was given an apology for the distress caused and no doubt the person apologising is hoping that the wronged party who used to be the offender( things change quickly in the U.K. when money is at stake) will in return, cease to cause any more distress to the shopping centre's revenue.

    Brain damage for sure. As General Jack D Ripper so rightly said in Dr Strangelove: "The commies are poisoning the water, Mandrake"


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    Here in the U.S. We take courtooms VERY seriously. You can be ejected or imprisoned (contempt of court, holding cells, not "real" prison -- held until you pay a fine and/or apologize to the judge personally) if you pull such a stunt.

    Why? Because it's an implicit threat against the jurors. You've just tainted the effort that went into picking the jurors... Now they're being documented? There are too many times where somebody tries to strong-arm a juror, or find out who they are and threaten their family, or whatever.

    These people have to feel like they are safe to perform their duties, and are pulled from the public at large.

    It's not as much about photographic rights in courtrooms here in the U.S. as it is a lesson learned in preventing damage to the system as a whole. You can't do it. This is why it's a big deal in high profile cases to allow cameras or close-circuit TVs, and so forth. You'll find more artists with pads and pencils sketching than you will photos (at least going by the stereotypes -- this will change from courtroom to courtroom).

    I'm glad some of the nutters are realizing that photos are no real threat and that public places should not be restricted, but there are some areas where it is restricted for very practical safety-related reasons.
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    An opinion from a rather libertarian blog (whose views I don't endorse BTW, they're very enthusiastic about cigarettes--yuk) but interesting.

    http://www.spiked-online.com/index.p...article/11164/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross Chambers View Post
    An opinion from a rather libertarian blog (whose views I don't endorse BTW, they're very enthusiastic about cigarettes--yuk) but interesting.

    http://www.spiked-online.com/index.p...article/11164/
    The shopping centre’s statement gives two reasons for its ‘no photography’ policy, which, as it points out, has also been adopted by most UK malls. Firstly, the policy aims ‘to protect the privacy of staff and shoppers’. Braehead Shopping Centre is sure that ‘shoppers would not want strangers taking photographs of them or their children while they were in the mall’. The problem is you could use the same argument to justify a ‘no photography’ policy in any public place, too, so why not ban photography at Trafalgar Square
    Umm... Try taking photographs in Trafalgar Square (with a tripod) and see how long it takes to get challenged by a "security" oik. The same goes for any number of landmark buildings in London, all in the name of "anti-terror security". These so called "laws" being used to "protect the public" are nothing more than renta-muppets trying to impose control on the general population.

    I have had some dumb harpie trying to limit my activities and threatened me with the Data Protection Act - These prats often have very little knowledge of the legislation that they are qouting. Time to fight back, using a large four-by-clue stick (sometimes, a Tazer is too easy )

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_c5x4 View Post
    I have had some dumb harpie trying to limit my activities and threatened me with the Data Protection Act
    I would like an argument with that idiot! The Data Protection Act is nothing to do with it!


    Steve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    I would like an argument with that idiot! The Data Protection Act is nothing to do with it!
    Too late. She threw her toys out of the pram and had a right royal hissy fit after I put her in her place.

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    Did you get it on video?!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross Chambers View Post
    An opinion from a rather libertarian blog
    Off-topic, but that blog is run by ex-members of the Revolutionary Communist Party which was a British Trotskyist party that practised entryism. They published a journal called Living Marxism which later became LM and was then sued out of existence by ITN after LM suggested they had fabricated some footage of an atrocity in Bosnia. The editor of LM, Mick Hume, is now 'editor-at-large' at Spiked.
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