What camera is this?

[Leksele]

Hello,
I have old folding camera with no sigh.
"Made in Germany" only.
Format 6x9. Film - 616
Lens - Schneider Xenar 120 4.5 N 307403 (I didn't find this lens in Schneider's site!)
Shutter -Compur



I didn't find it in McKeon.
My be anybody help me?
Thanks

[Steve Smith]

Is there a name embossed in the leather covering?

If the film is 616 then the film format is bigger than 6x9. You can adapt it to 120 film though then you can get 6x10 frames from it.

I have a similar Kodak one which I have modified.


Steve.

[Peltigera]

I suspect that it is a "own brand" made by the likes of Voigtlander or Zeiss for large retailers.

[Pumalite]

Bet is an old Bessa 6X9 Folder.

[Steve Smith]

Not with 616 film.


Steve.

[Ian Grant]

Bet is an old Bessa 6X9 Folder.

Unlikely with a Schneider lens, they tended to use their own although I have seen Voightlanders fitted with Tessars.

There were a number of short lived German camera manufacturere sin the 1930's so with no name identification can be a big problem.

Ian

[Rick A]

It could possibly be a "Beier of Freisen" manufacture, but the "DF" or is it "FD" logo may prove elsewise.. The labeling on the shutter is who made the shutter, and the model.

[Shootar401]

Ihagee of some sorts?

Or an Avus?

[Ian Grant]

Again very unlikely to be an Avus as they use Voigtlanders own lenses, and it's not like any Ihagee I've adverts for in the 1930's. That rimset shutter gives a rough idea of the date as does the lens serial number which is 1929-31. I've a 1929 Almanac on it's way in the post at the moment I'll see what possiblities there are - no of roughly similar cameras.

Ian

[Ian Grant]

It could possibly be a "Beier of Freisen" manufacture, but the "DF" or is it "FD" logo may prove elsewise.. The labeling on the shutter is who made the shutter, and the model.

The FD is the shutter manufacturer F.Deckel.

I had a good look through my BJP Almanacs and in 1929 Xenars aren't listed on cameras from any manufactuer however some smaller companies aren't advertising. There's no Xenars on any rebranded cameras either. They appear on Nagel cameras not long after and then on Kodak cameras after they bought the Nagel company however this camera isn't like any of the Nagel/Kodak Six-16 cameras.

So yuou'll need to keep looking.

Ian