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    Like a dagger to my heart. Have all good men forgotten the mighty Triotar?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Daniel View Post
    ... I thought 'Cords only came with Xenars (and a few hundred Tessars at the end of the run, I believe)

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    If balance (including light/quick/smooth controls) is the primary consideration, then it is worth looking at an Automat with a Tessar or Xenar. I have found that the shutter speed and f/stop wheels on my Automat have a lighter, smoother action than any E or F I have handled. Same for the crank and shutter release actions.

    I have never compared the weights on a scale, but the Automat seems more flickable on a subjective basis.

    Just two cents worth. But if you must have the Planar/Xenotar, then it is all moot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msbarnes View Post
    I want a Planar/Xenotar.

    2) How is the balance of the 2.8? I shoot a lot of available light so this is one that I'm considering; however many people prefer the balance of the 3.5. Is the balance and weight enough to deter you from these cameras? Or is it mostly the price?

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    I'm located in Berkeley California, so if anyone has a set for me to look at, that'd be great.

    I actually have two Tessar lensed Rollei's: an MX-EVS and a 3.5T. I prefer the handling of MX-EVS but I tend to shoot with the 3.5T more... probably because it was my first Rollei? Well, I love them both but I want to try a Planar/Xenotar next.

    I don't care for a prism or light meter and would prefer to have no meter. The only accessories that I do care about is a lens cap, lens hood, and a Rolleinar I. I browsed ebay/keh.com and the price/availability for Bay II/III accessories seemed comparable and overpriced (as usual). The Bay III Rolleinar 1's; however, (wasn't paying attention to the 2's or 3's) were upwards to $200! But with Rolleinar's I kind of figured that they have larger price fluctuations. Not in a rush for Rolleinar's.

    So I guess any E or F will do for me. I guess I'll wait for a good one to show up. A 2.8, preferably, but I'm not sure if I'd pass up a nice 3.5 model.

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    I used to have a 3.5E, it's nice, but I find the meter coupling fiddly. If I were to buy again, I'd probably save some money and get one without a meter, it's probably not accurate anyway, almost certainly not good enough for slide film. The savings can be spent on a handheld meter, or a Voigtlander clip on meter, very small, and modern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by summicron1 View Post
    the E does not have a removable hood, the F does -- all this means is that you can't use a prism finder if you want -- big whoop.
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    Whilst many will say that they get used to working with the laterally reversed image, I have never looked back since getting a prism. Some say that the resulting image is rather dark, but that's not my experience.

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    I have a 3.5E and love it. I guess that everyone has their preferences in terms of camera ergonomics, and I don't personally find the meter or meter coupling a problem. Mine is accurate when compared to modern handheld meters [and digital gear]. I find the size of the 3.5E about perfect. I've wondered about 2.8s [of whatever variety] but never come across one at a price I can afford and in good condition.

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    I live in Albany, CA right near you. I have three 2.8's and two 3.5's. If you're patient we can try to arrange a time and I'd be happy to let you see and handle a few. My schedule is really tight next few weeks though. None are for sale but if I nail a Rolleiwide I'm currently negotiating on I might cut loose one of them. Thing is most have Maxwell screens I put in and fairly recent CLAs so the price will be fairly premium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Roberts View Post
    Whilst many will say that they get used to working with the laterally reversed image, I have never looked back since getting a prism. Some say that the resulting image is rather dark, but that's not my experience.

    Steve

    I agree with Steve though most people identify using a TLR with the waist level finder. I was personally never able to use a Rollei much until I got a prism, and now it is my favorite camera. My prism along with a Maxwell screen seems nearly as bright as reality to the bare eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by summicron1 View Post
    the E does not have a removable hood, the F does -- all this means is that you can't use a prism finder if you want -- big whoop. the f uses a meter with a battery, the E uses a silenium meter -- likely not real accurate these days, but mine is, so ya never know.
    Is this just for the E? I use an E3 and it has a removable hood and no meter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by peter_n View Post
    Is this just for the E? I use an E3 and it has a removable hood and no meter.
    As I understand it, there was a transition period when Rollei went from E to F. Not everyone was happy with losing the EV system of coupling fstops with shutter speeds and they concurrently produced the E2, E3 and F for a short while. the E2 and 3 had the new removable hood but where otherwise like the older E. the 2 came with a meter and the 3 came without. There weren't very many E2s or E3s made before they were discontinued.

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