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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricus.stormfire View Post
    Don't support them then....easy as that... don't go there, don't buy there, don't use their services
    But do tell them why (at a senior level), and may be, just may be, higher level manglement will improve the services. Fat chance, but it only costs a stamp.

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    I have no doubt that it is cheaper and easier for Walmart to destroy the negatives.

    For one thing, that would permit them to transmit the scans electronically to the store, where they could be printed and burned on to the CD.

    And I also have no doubt that large numbers of their customers never intend to do anything with the negatives, and therefore don't care whether they are returned.

    They probably should care, but they don't.

    I agree that it is the precedent that Walmart sets that is the big problem here.

    I don't think though that those of us who value negatives form enough of their target market to make a difference to Walmart.

    The only thing that might make a difference is the problems they might start encountering when people ask to have something re-scanned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    The only thing that might make a difference is the problems they might start encountering when people ask to have something re-scanned.
    Oh, they probably keep them on ice for 30 days or so and then toss them in the local landfill. By that time the chance of someone wanting a second scan is almost nil.

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    They are probably recycling the negatives for the silver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildbill View Post
    Walmart, the best thing to happen to the downfall of America since government.
    Got that right! Haven't been inside one for at least fifteen years, maybe longer.
    Expletive Deleted!

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    And people scoffed when we said Wal-Mart was evil.

    "It's cheap," they said, and "Wal-Mart sends out to Fuji anyway so what difference does it make?"

    Well, now we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighgion View Post
    And people scoffed when we said Wal-Mart was evil.

    "It's cheap," they said, and "Wal-Mart sends out to Fuji anyway so what difference does it make?"

    Well, now we know.
    Ahh, they are doing what others have done for countless generations. The difference of course is that to support those rock bottom prices they need huge volumes. But that is where the niche is at that others can take advantage of. The volume may be too low to support Wal-Mart, but not too low for Walgreens, or someone else. So someone else can move in and take advantage of the situation. I do believe that this is where we are headed.

    It is no different than Kodak. For generations they have been the big Kahunna in film. Fuji came along and began challenging that position. Now Fuji is beginning to pull in its horns because film is no longer the big profit center it was in the past. But Harman Technologies was able to move in and take over from Ilford because they were able to keep their footprint small and overhead low. And they have stayed that way and have really catered to the smaller markets.

    I do believe you will see more of this begin to happen, particularly if Kodak does go down. Film will continue, everyone believes that, but when the dust settles this business will look entirely different. Meanwhile there are going to be some huge changes so get ready for the ride.

    It is all about making money and most times the smaller guy does not need to maintain the same volumes as the bigger guy. But the money is still there so you can be certain that someone is going to try to get a piece of it. I just hope those "someones" make decent film.

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    Must be nice living somewhere where you don't have to shop at Walmart.

    As to prices, quite often these days Walmart has the highest prices, not the lowest. I have to shop at Walmart, but I also have to be very careful about what I buy there, often the grocery across the parking lot has the same thing for 60% of Walmart's price. Used to be I could get 90% of what I need at a Walmart, now it is more like 40%.

    Yep, I wish I did not need to shop there at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighgion View Post
    And people scoffed when we said Wal-Mart was evil.

    "It's cheap," they said, and "Wal-Mart sends out to Fuji anyway so what difference does it make?"

    Well, now we know.

    it was fine when they used fuji
    they don't use fuji anymore ...
    i didn't have trouble at all for 10years
    fuji is having trouble it seems
    they not only lost walmart/sams club but a lot
    of the pharmacy drop off accounts they had after
    qualex left town ... a few years ago they closed
    down their ct lab, so everything went to NY state
    then NY state closed down ... the last roll they processed for me
    was sent to the midwest or CO, and that was maybe 1-2 years ago ?

    there is no demand for a huge lab to process film anymore ...


    Quote Originally Posted by McFortner View Post
    They are probably recycling the negatives for the silver.
    i don't think so ... they probably just throw them away seeing mainly consumers go there
    who don't care about film, they are scanned and prints + cd are given back ...
    i am sure if someone wrote " please return negatives " in the special instructions they would return them ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    i am sure if someone wrote " please return negatives " in the special instructions they would return them ...
    That's how I've been getting E-6 processed by them. I take a sharpie and put a big X through the print options, then I mark the special instructions box and note that the film is E-6 and they need to develop and mount. However, this may be different. There's an 800 number on the envelopes that indicates the print options - I dont know about the new style envelopes that the OP is talking about but there should be an 800 number there too. Someone should call it (in case it's a different 800 number from the older style envelopes) and see if they can return the negatives to the store if you check the special instructions box. I will probably do the same to see if E-6 can still be sent through them. If no more E-6 through them then I will be mailing directly to Dwayne's.
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