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    Mamiya C3 Bellows Replacement?

    So I dug out my Mamiya C3 and I'm getting it ready for use. I had to do *this* when some kids decided that it would be fun to rip the bellows:

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    Duct tape on top of some light blocking fabric. Completely serviceable, but I'd like to have the thing CLA'd and the bellows replaced if possible before I start using it again.

    Who can do it? I've been almost three years away, so I have no idea. All I know is that I still have 8 rolls of film I want to shoot, fixer that still works, an almost full container of HC-110, and a lead on an enlarger close enough to me to actually go get. I'm ready to give it a go again.
    No idea what's going to happen next, but I'm hoping it involves being wrist deep in chemicals come the weekend.

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    I tried to find some bellows for Mamiya 'C-series' cameras several years ago.
    Not much luck...affordably anyway.
    Ended up acquiring junk cameras for parts...cannibalizing the bellows from them.
    It's the cheapest way to go, now days...for repairing Mamiya TLR cameras.

    Do note...there are actually three bellows on Mamiya TLR's.
    There is the outer bellows you see. That bellows covers two, separate, inner bellows.
    One inner bellows for the taking lens, and another for the viewing lens.

    The inner, taking-lens bellows is well protected...sitting below the viewing bellows,
    nestled between the side rail racks, and above the bottom rail.

    Any minor light leak in the upper, viewing-lens chamber is of little consequence.

    If your light seals on the rear film back/door look okay...run a roll of film through the camera.
    You may find out you're not having any problems from the bellows.

    Marc
    Last edited by Marc B.; 10-21-2012 at 07:17 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    I apologise if you know this already, but inside the rectangular bellows is another bellows which is square and connects the taking lens to the film gate. Even if the outer bellows were not there, the inner bellows would still be light tight.

    Therefore, as long as you have patched it up enough to be able to use the viewfinder, you should have no problems.

    I have a scrap C3 (or C33) in a drawer at work. If I can work out how to remove the bellows from the body you can have it. As I'm in England, it would not be worth posting the whole thing.

    EDIT: I didn't know this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc B. View Post
    Do note...there are actually three bellows on Mamiya TLR's.
    There is the outer bellows you see. That bellows covers two, separate, inner bellows.
    One inner bellows for the taking lens, and another for the viewing lens.
    I thought it was just two sets.


    Steve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie Brim View Post
    So I dug out my Mamiya C3 and I'm getting it ready for use. I had to do *this* when some kids decided that it would be fun to rip the bellows:
    The Rolleiflex has no bellows.

    A nice Rolleiflex 2.8F could set you back as little as $1,500.00. After a proper CLA and a Maxwell screen you could have a very nice camera for about $2000.00 ( give or take ).

    Hang the C3 in the kid's bedroom as a reminder not to mess with Mom's cameras.

    Remove the price of the nice 2.8F from the kid's university fund.

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    Hi Steph,
    Welcome back, it's been awhile. Best of luck with your re-entry.
    Gerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Goutiere View Post
    The Rolleiflex has no bellows.

    A nice Rolleiflex 2.8F could set you back as little as $1,500.00. After a proper CLA and a Maxwell screen you could have a very nice camera for about $2000.00 ( give or take ).

    Hang the C3 in the kid's bedroom as a reminder not to mess with Mom's cameras.

    Remove the price of the nice 2.8F from the kid's university fund.
    Hahahahahahahaha no. I just had my gallbladder evicted. I don't have the money for the CLA, really, much less the Rollei. But I actually *like* this monster of a camera. It's a beater and I love it.

    As to the fix, I did send an email to the people at camerarepair.com, but I don't know what they'll be able to do. If they can't fix the bellows, I can deal. Doesn't impact use in any way.
    No idea what's going to happen next, but I'm hoping it involves being wrist deep in chemicals come the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry M View Post
    Hi Steph,
    Welcome back, it's been awhile. Best of luck with your re-entry.
    Gerry
    Thank you. It's nice to be back, actually.

    Oooh, funny thing. I need to tell PE about. I use TF-4 fixer because, well, *all* the cool kids do. I had an opened 1 litre bottle of concentrate from about 3 years ago that I decided to test. The fixer is still perfectly fine. Cleared the film in about 30 seconds. I am over the moon. So anyone out there who worries about the shelf life of their TF-4...probably shouldn't. I mean, this wasn't even properly stored with no air in the bottle. I think the stuff will outlive me at this point. I have no qualms about using my HC-110 after this, though I should probably test both that and the Rodinal to make sure.
    No idea what's going to happen next, but I'm hoping it involves being wrist deep in chemicals come the weekend.

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    The fact that the bellows is actually of three part construction may mean that you don't have to do anything with it - unless the rip goes right through into the inner bellows.

    You may want to replace it with prettier tape though.

    PS - welcome back
    Matt

    “Photography is a complex and fluid medium, and its many factors are not applied in simple sequence. Rather, the process may be likened to the art of the juggler in keeping many balls in the air at one time!”

    Ansel Adams, from the introduction to The Negative - The New Ansel Adams Photography Series / Book 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    The fact that the bellows is actually of three part construction may mean that you don't have to do anything with it - unless the rip goes right through into the inner bellows.

    You may want to replace it with prettier tape though.

    PS - welcome back
    The duct tape lends a professional look, don't you think? And this?

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    Just makes it even more special.

    (I'm actually going to replace the waist level. However, I'm keeping this one for the heck of it.)
    No idea what's going to happen next, but I'm hoping it involves being wrist deep in chemicals come the weekend.

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    I've never had any dealings with this company, or their products.
    Could be another option for you, though. $75.USD or 48.GBP

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Be...-/271035012603

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