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    I'm trying to figure out how you get 3x4.5 out of 120 film ?

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    How do you advance half frame?

    This is a shot if the back of my Bencini Koroll 24s, also a half frame camera. And that's a 120 take up spool.

    The frame is 4.5cm vertically and 3cm wide. Same as the Koroll II.

    So if I shoot half a frame (3cm), and the another half frame (3cm), and add them together I get a full 6x4.5 frame.

    Am I looking at this incorrectly?

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    It looks to me that the 3 x 4.5cm framing would only be available with 127 film.

    I bet that that centre film gate comes out.

    If so, there should be both that gate and adapters for the feed and takeup sides to permit you to switch between 127 and 120 film.
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    I agree with Matt, 120 would overlap the film gate with a pretty big gap (front to back). It seems like focus would be a problem. Is the pressure plate flat, is it 6 cm top to bottom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    This is a shot if the back of my Bencini Koroll 24s, also a half frame camera. And that's a 120 take up spool.

    The frame is 4.5cm vertically and 3cm wide. Same as the Koroll II.

    So if I shoot half a frame (3cm), and the another half frame (3cm), and add them together I get a full 6x4.5 frame.

    Am I looking at this incorrectly?

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    It wastes 1.50 cm of film vertical dimension?

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    It won't hold 120 film very flat, it does look as if it's a dual format camera to use 120 full 6x6 with that plate removed or 127 with it. But the manual clearly shows it's designed to just use 3/4 of the films width which seems to be quite poor design.

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    maybe this is why they don't make 'em anymore!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    It won't hold 120 film very flat, it does look as if it's a dual format camera to use 120 full 6x6 with that plate removed or 127 with it. But the manual clearly shows it's designed to just use 3/4 of the films width which seems to be quite poor design.

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    I'm confused. I measured the window, the manual and camerapedia link clearly state it's for 120 film, and that it takes 3x4.5cm frames.... And you still say it won't work as designed?

    I usually look up to most of you for information, but y'all seem to be so against the fact that this size frame just isn't possible. What is it about this camera that makes y'all think it's wrong, or I'm wrong or whatever?

    All I really wanted to know was how to advance it to get properly spaced negatives.
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