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    How do you advance half frame?

    I'm going to try and use my Bencini Koroll II today. I've loaded it with film and don't really know how to advance it. The numbers on a 120 roll are for 6x4.5, 6x6, and 6x9. This Koroll is 3x4.5, and there is two advance windows.

    Which do I use because only the 6x6 numbers are visible? Any suggestions?

    That is the 1 in the right window.


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    How do you advance half frame?

    Or would you shoot one frame with the "1" in the left window, and one frame with the "1" in the right window?

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    Yes, that is the correct method!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    Or would you shoot one frame with the "1" in the left window, and one frame with the "1" in the right window?

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    My hands are precise to align a two 105x70 cms films in 3 seconds. Waste an film with taking notes about how did you advanced the film and your hands will be adjusted to do the same in next few films.

    When I was thinking , I think Christopher is right , measure the two red centers distance and do what he says or similar.

    Is 3x4.5 vertical or horizontal ? Do you need to advance 3 centimeters or other. It changes the game

    Good luck , I think you bought the camera from APUG Sheffield. He sent me an excellent Nettar.

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    I think Chris has misunderstood that a half frame of 6x9 is 6x4.5, not 3x4.5, the nonimal 6cm is the width of the film and doesn't change regardless of the camera as long as it takes 120 (or 620) so can yield 6x17, 6x14, 6x12, 6x9, 6x8 (Fuji) 6x7. 6x6 and 6x4.5.

    Unless of course the Korrelle takes 127 film and not 120.

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    How do you advance half frame?

    The Koroll takes 120 and it shoots 3x4.5cm images. It is vertically 4.5cm. If it were a full frame it would be 6x6, and half of six is three. So if I put the number in the left window first then in the second window, I would get a 6x4.5 frame.

    At least that's what I'm thinking...
    Last edited by ChristopherCoy; 11-24-2012 at 03:29 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    chris, did your camera come with the frame masks ...
    and do you know how to remove them ?

    great indestructible modern box cameras !

    john

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    How do you advance half frame?

    No it doesn't have extra masks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    No it doesn't have extra masks.
    when the camera is open and you are looking at the film gate
    there are 2 rectangles that crop the image and convert it to 1/2 frame
    you just slide them UP / they lift out of the camera ... kind of like little clips.
    it took me forever to figure that out ... careful though, easy to lose and you will never
    find replacements... i believe you use the FIRST window for 6x6 after you remove the masks.

    have fun
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    Last edited by jnanian; 11-24-2012 at 04:49 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    The Koroll takes 120 and it shoots 3x4.5cm images. It is vertically 4.5cm. If it were a full frame it would be 6x6, and half of six is three. So if I put the number in the left window first then in the second window, I would get a 6x4.5 frame.

    At least that's what I'm thinking...
    I guess you think wrong.

    127 is approx 4.5cm vertically, I've just processed 4 films today - so just checked, the previous 127 films I processed were fresh from a Brownie 127 in the early-mid 1960's while at school. If those photo's are of a 127 camera you're thunmb etc is in proportion but that's not the case for a 120 camera.

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