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    Quote Originally Posted by RalphLambrecht View Post
    Hasselblad isnot justa camera; it's a way of life and a serious love affair. I hug mine every night;nothing loves you like your blad.with that camera, you're never alone;seriously,there is something special about it; just hold one in your hand and you'll know what I'm talking about.
    Yes, there is, RL. It is special. But then the shutter trips and that big jump in my hands makes my heart sink. So I'm working on cultivating a relationship with my ELM. It's big and heavy, but it holds still. And in my better senses, I realize that's ALL that is important. That's why my C/M is on the way out the door. I'll not have a camera that jumps like a bullfrog when I trip it. (yes, all new foam)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    Yes, there is, RL. It is special. But then the shutter trips and that big jump in my hands makes my heart sink. So I'm working on cultivating a relationship with my ELM. It's big and heavy, but it holds still. And in my better senses, I realize that's ALL that is important. That's why my C/M is on the way out the door. I'll not have a camera that jumps like a bullfrog when I trip it. (yes, all new foam)
    Try a Mamiya RZ67 Pro II, I've hand held it at 1/60th (tightly) without any camera shake, sure it's heavy and bulkier, but it won't jump on you, and the glass is really good.

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    I had an RB, but got rid of it pretty quick. It hesitates between the trip and the action, and expressions on people can change in that long instant. Had it happen a couple times. Weird expressions on people's faces in the picture that weren't there when I first pushed the button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    I had an RB, but got rid of it pretty quick. It hesitates between the trip and the action, and expressions on people can change in that long instant. Had it happen a couple times. Weird expressions on people's faces in the picture that weren't there when I first pushed the button.
    Strange, no delay for me on the RZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    Strange, no delay for me on the RZ
    Me either...

    and no jump for me on a 500C or C/M...
    See my work at my website CHRISTOPHER LANGE PHOTOGRAPHY

    or my snaps at my blog MINIMUM DENSITY
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    The Hasselblad C C/M vibration situation has been a subject of much discussion on this site, among others, and was even noted by Adams. It IS a definite problem. I've sidestepped the problem by switching over to my ELM. The weight of the motor/battery dampens these vibrations down to practically nothing. Besides, I'm familiar with the mechanism. There's a little pin on the interior gear that pushed the mirror up to its final position AFTER the initial slap-and-bounce, and BEFORE the shutter actually trips. What happens is that the mirror does the customary slap, then bounces back a wee bit, then the pin comes around a tad, forcing the mirror back up, then the shutter trips. No vibration. Along with the dampening of its weight, it's just about as good as a Rolleiflex.
    Cheaper, too. EL's and ELM's can be bought with pocket change nearly.

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    Just sold all my Blad gear :(

    I shot my CM last weekend loaded with 400 speed b&w and with the 150 Sonnar mounted. Handheld with a grip. Mostly photos of my family at a picnic in a local botanical gardens. Almost everything shot at f/5.6 and 1/250th. If there was vibration issues I certainly cannot see any effect. Negs are tack sharp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    The Hasselblad C C/M vibration situation has been a subject of much discussion on this site, among others, and was even noted by Adams. It IS a definite problem. I've sidestepped the problem by switching over to my ELM. The weight of the motor/battery dampens these vibrations down to practically nothing. Besides, I'm familiar with the mechanism. There's a little pin on the interior gear that pushed the mirror up to its final position AFTER the initial slap-and-bounce, and BEFORE the shutter actually trips. What happens is that the mirror does the customary slap, then bounces back a wee bit, then the pin comes around a tad, forcing the mirror back up, then the shutter trips. No vibration. Along with the dampening of its weight, it's just about as good as a Rolleiflex.
    Cheaper, too. EL's and ELM's can be bought with pocket change nearly.
    I don't see any evidence of it in my pictures, compared to for example Rolleiflex. What is it in your prints that you attribute to the mirror?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rich815 View Post
    I shoot my CM last weekend loaded with 400 speed b&w and with the 150 Sonnar mounted. Handheld with a grip. Mostly photos of my family at a picnic in a local botanical gardens. Almost everything shot at f/5.6 and 1/250th. If there was vibration issues I certainly cannot see any effect. Negs are tack sharp.
    The vibration is documented at 1/125 and below. 1/250 is fine. Usage depends on owner. I tend to do a lot at 1/30 with flash-fill on people. Besides that, using 100 speed film doesn't always allow fast shutter speeds even in daylight. No 2 ways about it--a C, C/M is not a smooth camera. A Rollei can run circles around it. I've posted this photo before. I see a cool and collected Reinhold Heidecke leaning there looking self-assured, while VH is trying to convince him his new toy can compare. But we know it cannot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rich815 View Post
    I shot my CM last weekend loaded with 400 speed b&w and with the 150 Sonnar mounted. Handheld with a grip. Mostly photos of my family at a picnic in a local botanical gardens. Almost everything shot at f/5.6 and 1/250th. If there was vibration issues I certainly cannot see any effect. Negs are tack sharp.
    At 250th of a second you shouldn't have any vibration issues, it's the 1/60 or 1/125 that people are worried about, sometimes people want more of the shot in focus, can't always go to f/5.6...



 

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