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    I repeat my question. What in your prints is not satisfying, attributable to the mirror?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    I repeat my question. What in your prints is not satisfying, attributable to the mirror?
    Call it confidence and security. Add my natural shake to the camera's, and I can't be at ease till the film comes back. My ELM is like a rock, and my C/M is like a bullfrog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    Call it confidence and security. Add my natural shake to the camera's, and I can't be at ease till the film comes back. My ELM is like a rock, and my C/M is like a bullfrog.
    So you can't show in a print that the mirror vibration actually affects the outcome? Yet you're here professing to everybody that it vibrates out of your hand. What the hell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    I have found with my 503CX that the vibration situation exists only in the internet ethernet or in the minds of those who insist that the only real camera is a range finder camera. The Hasselblad vibration situation does not exist in the real world. I have used the 250mm hand held for a 1/250 second exposure and I cannot find any blur from the vibration on the negative when greatly enlarged.
    The guys who engineered the Hasselblad cameras were no dummies.
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    Oh, well. I'm not here to hog the OP's thread or to cause altercation. I don't like the big jump and it's good enough for me. My ELM doesn't do like that, so it's moved up to #1 position. Besides, it's always ready for the next shot. Kinda like automatic transmission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    At 250th of a second you shouldn't have any vibration issues, it's the 1/60 or 1/125 that people are worried about, sometimes people want more of the shot in focus, can't always go to f/5.6...
    Perhaps but if I want sharpness I rarely will hand hold anything short of 1/125th, even with my Leicas and Rolleiflexes. Those who claim handhold-ability down to 1/15th on rangefinders or even SLRs are just accepting more shake and blurriness than I ever would. I often do use my Hassy on a tripod at lower speeds but again nothing but tack sharpness, unless I missed the focus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    Why would anyone want to hand hold a 250mm lens of any camera for a 1/60 exposure?
    umm to get the shot... ? lol heck with the weight of a 250 I would think it would be easier lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich815 View Post
    Perhaps but if I want sharpness I rarely will hand hold anything short of 1/125th, even with my Leicas and Rolleiflexes. Those who claim handhold-ability down to 1/15th on rangefinders or even SLRs are just accepting more shake and blurriness than I ever would. I often do use my Hassy on a tripod at lower speeds but again nothing but tack sharpness, unless I missed the focus.
    I wouldn't claim to be able to get down to 1/15th with the Mamiya RZ67, but I've certainly gotten tack sharp images at 1/60th.

    I've gotten tack sharp images to probably 1/30th on the Canon 1V, but probably not 1/15 unless I'm resting it on a banister or something, and then it's almost like using a tripod...

    On the other hand I've gotten nice shots at 1/8th with my Mamiya 7 ... but you have to be REALLY careful and brace yourself against something, and your subject can't be moving either LOL.

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    "Tack sharp" is somewhat subjective, at least if it's not measured in some scientific way. For me, using 6x6, I wouldn't judge "tack sharp" in any print under 20x20 inches.
    As for the Hasselblad issue, I find it hard to believe that a company with it's history, reputation for precision, and legions of professional photographers would release a second rate product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    However the same cannot be said for those who claim the the Hasselblad vibration situation exists.
    Word.
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