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    Oh, well. I'm not here to hog the OP's thread or to cause altercation. I don't like the big jump and it's good enough for me. My ELM doesn't do like that, so it's moved up to #1 position. Besides, it's always ready for the next shot. Kinda like automatic transmission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    At 250th of a second you shouldn't have any vibration issues, it's the 1/60 or 1/125 that people are worried about, sometimes people want more of the shot in focus, can't always go to f/5.6...
    Perhaps but if I want sharpness I rarely will hand hold anything short of 1/125th, even with my Leicas and Rolleiflexes. Those who claim handhold-ability down to 1/15th on rangefinders or even SLRs are just accepting more shake and blurriness than I ever would. I often do use my Hassy on a tripod at lower speeds but again nothing but tack sharpness, unless I missed the focus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    Why would anyone want to hand hold a 250mm lens of any camera for a 1/60 exposure?
    umm to get the shot... ? lol heck with the weight of a 250 I would think it would be easier lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by rich815 View Post
    Perhaps but if I want sharpness I rarely will hand hold anything short of 1/125th, even with my Leicas and Rolleiflexes. Those who claim handhold-ability down to 1/15th on rangefinders or even SLRs are just accepting more shake and blurriness than I ever would. I often do use my Hassy on a tripod at lower speeds but again nothing but tack sharpness, unless I missed the focus.
    I wouldn't claim to be able to get down to 1/15th with the Mamiya RZ67, but I've certainly gotten tack sharp images at 1/60th.

    I've gotten tack sharp images to probably 1/30th on the Canon 1V, but probably not 1/15 unless I'm resting it on a banister or something, and then it's almost like using a tripod...

    On the other hand I've gotten nice shots at 1/8th with my Mamiya 7 ... but you have to be REALLY careful and brace yourself against something, and your subject can't be moving either LOL.
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    "Tack sharp" is somewhat subjective, at least if it's not measured in some scientific way. For me, using 6x6, I wouldn't judge "tack sharp" in any print under 20x20 inches.
    As for the Hasselblad issue, I find it hard to believe that a company with it's history, reputation for precision, and legions of professional photographers would release a second rate product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    However the same cannot be said for those who claim the the Hasselblad vibration situation exists.
    Word.
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    Hold a C/M and trip it. Now pick up the ELM and click it. Smooth as silk. That thing has a 10lb chrome-and-leather vibration damper attached to the bottom of it. Practically like hauling around an anvil after toting a C/M. Go ahead.... click it again. Smoooooth. The EL ELM is a whole other animal from the standard Hasselblad. And they don't cost anything. That's really wild. You put some fresh foam in an EL and it is sweet as a Rolleiflex.

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    I don't own a Hasselblad, but did shoot a few rolls with a borrowed one, about 20 years ago. I don't remember the model, but it was an excellent experience. It seemed very well engineered, and elegant in it's use. There's no way I can believe they'd issue the substandard product you describe.

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    WHERE did I say substandard??? For corn's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    WHERE did I say substandard??? For corn's sake.
    Pretty much every post in this thread.



 

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