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    I confess, I haven't read all five pages, but if you want durable then one of the Fuji GA645 series is the ticket. The GS645 are much more fragile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustafa Umut Sarac View Post
    Nobody could claim a japanese lens is as good as cooke, dagor , protar , ektar. I can buy these lenses for less than 1000 dollars. They are hotrod , 3 times faster car than the ferrari. Why I would pay 2000 dollars to a fuji , 1600 cc toyota ? Can you see the same dimensionality , colors , relief , depth , tonality, noise at a japanese glass ? They are wrong to my eye. Kodak , Chance brothers for Cooke , Schott for Zeiss , Dagor , Leica were the largest glass makers and developers in the last century. I did not hear anything for japan , they copied everything. I love japan most , I love japanese people most , I am in to their poetry , literature , religion , architecture , woodworking , steel making , pottery, textiles , foods , botanics , martial arts , cinema and everything is the best quality but I cant accept their lenses and films.
    You obviously "see" exactly what you want to see... objectivity is slippery little bugger isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by msbarnes View Post
    Less than $10 is a bit extreme!
    I do not get your point. There are cameras at this price that fit your requirements of post #1.

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    I saw couple of Agfa Isolette II with Apotar lens selling for less than Euro 10 in ebay, some weeks ago. Seems nobody was interested to bid on that day...

    One thing that I do not like about the folders esp., Isolette is the lack of safety pin that prevents the opening of the folder plate. I always have to carry the dirty old leather cover...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgX View Post
    I do not get your point. There are cameras at this price that fit your requirements of post #1.
    Which 120 medium format non-folder cameras with focusing abilities meet this criteria?
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    Agfa Isola in the triplet version. Limitations are the few settings of the shutter.
    But in the same price range I also got a folder with triplet, rangefinder and better shutter.

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    If you can afford a large outlay, opts for Fujifilm GF670
    6x6 and 6x7 have. this is my favorite camera
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/felixucomartin/6523743083/
    which is more sack of ride my Fuji GA645.
    Negative results of the 645 are all bad. but do not compare with those of the 670 or 6x6 or 6x7.
    the advantages a new brand with service and spare parts camera.
    disadvantages have to be careful with it

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    I have been able to purchase lots of old Agfa Billy Record 6x9 folders with the Anistigmat 105/8.8, 105/7.7 and 105/6.3 for under $40 USD, including shipping. The older Agfa folders have leather bellows and I have yet to find a leaky one. The shutters are usually pretty simple and even if they are a bit sticky when they arrive they seem to respond well to having a bit of exercise. (I'm going to have to remember the exercise trick when I get as old as they are. )

    The lenses provide a pretty good picture if you work within their limits and always use a hood. I just make mine out of cardboard painted flat black on the inside. Though they have a small aperture even wide open it can be quite surprising how many pictures are possible outdoors with the small aperture and shutter range.

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    I love folders. I have a couple Agfa Jsolettes, Kodak 620s (vigilant, Junior, Tourist I, etc), and a Zeiss Ikon Nettar.
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    I'd suggest taking a look at a Mamiya Standard 23. They're not exactly small but they are tough as hell...You get the feeling that one of these could fall out of a vietnam era helicopter and survive just fine.....hmmmm, I'm pretty sure many did too.

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