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    Quote Originally Posted by GarageBoy View Post
    Great, after this thread, I feel the need to try all the formats...
    Our work here is done. Check back in when you need somebody to talk you into LF and ULF though. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fretlessdavis View Post
    I tried out one of the Schneider zooms for my ETRS a while back... that, paired with a motor drive (had access to the older one, not the nice, light EII) and an AE prism was a massive and heavy beast. Even having the upper body of a rock climber, it wasn't exactly comfortable or easy to raise to my eye. Probably at least 10x the weight of my little Pentax ZX-5 with a 75-150 zoom mounted on it.

    The weight differences, especially compared to gems like the Olympus OM, can be considerable. Compared to the dSLR of today, it isn't as great a difference.

    ETRSi body, metering prism, back, motor winder+batteries, PE 45-90mm zoom: 6lb 5oz
    Canon 40D body, 17-55mm zoom: 3lb 11oz
    Olympus OM4 body, 28-200mm: 2lb 8oz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    In 2009 I walked the streets of Manhattan with nothing but a Hasselblad and Foma 100 film. .
    Wow, Thomas, where were you hanging the camera and film to keep yourself decent.

    Sorry couldn't resist

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    Quote Originally Posted by pentaxuser View Post
    Wow, Thomas, where were you hanging the camera and film to keep yourself decent.

    Sorry couldn't resist

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    It was problematic... Good catch.
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    Probably got chased back to Minnesota by the Naked Cowboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erikg View Post
    Probably got chased back to Minnesota by the Naked Cowboy.
    Hahaha There can be only one.
    "Often moments come looking for us". - Robert Frank

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    Garageboy. If interested I have a complete Mamiya 645 pro tl for sale here

    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum379/...plete-kit.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiltw View Post
    The weight differences, especially compared to gems like the Olympus OM, can be considerable. Compared to the dSLR of today, it isn't as great a difference.

    ETRSi body, metering prism, back, motor winder+batteries, PE 45-90mm zoom: 6lb 5oz
    Canon 40D body, 17-55mm zoom: 3lb 11oz
    Olympus OM4 body, 28-200mm: 2lb 8oz
    I don't know about you, but I consider the 2.5 pound difference in your example here to be rather large.

    That said, your listed ETRSi setup is pretty much a worst case scenario. Going with the manual speed grip instead of the motorwinder will save a fair amount of weight (and personally, I prefer thumb winding to motorwinding, so that's a double win in my books). Replacing the zoom for a single prime will make a huge difference (of course you lose the felxibility, but then, I enjoy selecting a single lens for my day/task and sticking to it). And depending on personal usage style you can replace the AE prism for a WLF for another big weight savings.

    My setup is ETR-Si, 75mm F2.8 PE, AEII prism, speed grip, and 120 back. It comes in somewhere around 4 pounds (I haven't weighed it). It's remarkably close to my Dad's D80 w/18-200 lens though. Definitely a huge weight difference compared to my OM40 w/nifty-fifty, but still doable. I'm hoping to get a WLF for a really street friendly setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntenny View Post
    Our work here is done. Check back in when you need somebody to talk you into LF and ULF though. :-)

    -NT
    Don't even joke about that, I spent 3 hrs looking at baby Graflexes because, hey, cheap MF!
    Then, looked at 4x5, cause Weegee...
    Then though, hmm, I could always load up some 4x5 in my changing tent
    JUST NO! Not yet!

    That Mamiya outfit is tempting

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarageBoy View Post
    That Mamiya outfit is tempting
    It's a very nice set and the price is very reasonable. It enables you to go light & small with the waist level finder and the hand crank. Or go bigger, larger but more convenient with the metered prism and the winder. Even then it still fits in a smaller camera bag. I had a (non-TL) Pro with the prism, winder and a 2.8 150mm lens with me on a stroll through old Montreal last Sunday with my wife and 4yo daughter. Weight & size was not an issue. I saw a gentleman with a Mamiya 7 II on Place Jacques Cartier and his camera bag was way bigger than mine. Forgot to ask "Is that a Hasselblad".

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