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    Help Identifying old Zeiss Folder

    I bought this at a yard sale over the summer for about sixty dollars, if memory serves. I've tried finding some info on it, but I've only found Ikonta's and the like online. It has a fantastic f/2.8 Tessar that produces some fantastic images.

    It seems to be called a Super Ikomat BII, and all the markings inside seem to indicate a 6x9 format, but it shoots 6x6 images. It even says 6x9, 2.25x3.25 on the inside.

    Images can be found at http://imgur.com/a/m9984

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    That "6x9" thing on the inside is normal with Zeiss folders of this vintage; they marketed the *film* as 6x9 film.

    I think the Super Ikomat name was used for some versions of the Super Ikonta 530; anyway it's some flavor of 6x6 Super Ikonta. You got a terrific price on it!

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    Thanks a ton for the info! Any idea as to what this camera may be worth? I highly doubt I'd ever sell it, but I'd still like to know what kind of deal I got.

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    Help Identifying old Zeiss Folder

    Joe Jesus:The website CollectiBlend (www.CollectiBlend.com/Cameras/ lists this camera,if it is a Zeiss Ikomat 530/16, in average condition, at between $160.00 to $180.00. I would imagine that with the lens that your camera has it would be worth a lot more. Nice find.

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    Help Identifying old Zeiss Folder

    Joe Jesus:The website CollectiBlend (www.CollectiBlend.com/Cameras/ lists this camera,if it is a Zeiss Ikomat 530/16, in average condition, at between $160.00 to $180.00. I would imagine that with the lens that your camera has it would be worth a lot more. Nice find.

    Doug

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    Hate to knock your camera, however it looks a little rough. If you are going to keep it, you might want to see what http://www.certo6.com/ would charge for a CLA. You might need bellows also. He has done a couple of folders for me and I've bee happy with pricing and service. Bill Barber

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    There is a number imprinted on the side. What does it say?
    See 3rd image above your thumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntenny View Post

    I think the Super Ikomat name was used for some versions of the Super Ikonta 530; anyway it's some flavor of 6x6 Super Ikonta.

    -NT
    Shouldn't a 6x6 have a centered frame number window?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsurit View Post
    Hate to knock your camera, however it looks a little rough. If you are going to keep it, you might want to see what http://www.certo6.com/ would charge for a CLA. You might need bellows also. He has done a couple of folders for me and I've bee happy with pricing and service. Bill Barber
    It looks a little rough, cosmetically, but it functions perfectly! Looks can be deceiving. The bellows are light tight, the RF is bright and accurate, the shutter is accurate at all speeds (by my rough test by ear, at least) and the aperture blades are all clean and clear. I really lucked out on this one!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheToadMen View Post
    There is a number imprinted on the side. What does it say?
    See 3rd image above your thumb.
    530/16. I completely missed that... Looks like everyone here was right.


    Quote Originally Posted by SalveSlog View Post
    Shouldn't a 6x6 have a centered frame number window?
    Thats what I thought, too, but after putting a roll through it it doesn't seem to be an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Jesus View Post
    530/16. I completely missed that... Looks like everyone here was right.
    530 stands for the camera model and /16 tells you the negative size.

    xxx = 6x4.5 cm neg on 120 film (I think this format didn't have a /xx extension at all)
    xxx/2 = 6x9 neg on 120 film
    xxx/15 = 6.5x11 neg on 616 film
    xxx/16 = 6x6 cm neg on 120 film
    xxx/18 - 3x4 cm on 127 film
    xxx/24 = 24x36 mm neg on 135 film
    (I think this list is correct, but if anyone could check it??)

    Here is some info from Cameraquest:
    "Zeiss Super Ikonta B's are 6x6cm (2 1/4 x 2 1/4) format. Made from the early 1930's to the middle 50's, the various versions can be confusing. Using the 80/2.8 Tessar, the best Tessar was the post war coated version. The best shutter is the post war Synchro Compur. Simplified versions without rangefinders were "Ikontas" (as opposed to "Super Ikontas") fitted with less expensive lenses and shutters. Early versions are labeled "Super Ikomat." Luckily the Super Ikontas A, B, and C all used easily available 120 film in your favorite modern emulsion. The D had an even larger format, for long discontinued 616 film. "
    (source: http://www.cameraquest.com/zikontb.htm)

    See also: http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Zeiss_Ikon_Ikonta
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