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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    Here is the 127 Verichrome Pan that I am familiar with: http://m4.i.pbase.com/g5/29/663529/3...4.CNr6Oy5Q.jpg

    That is an image I found using Google.

    I am too young to know what 127 Verichrome looked like .

    Any chance, Stone that what you have is Verichrome, not Verichrome Pan?

    And with respect to the numbering, I wasn't talking about the numbers on the backing paper, but rather the numbers edge printed on to the film.
    Actually funny enough today I loaded my 116 camera with that same roll...

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    But the 127 is an entirely different backing paper.

    The above roll is 1976 I believe, and the 127 was I believe 1950's or 1960's I THINK but I have another roll from the same lot, so I'll check when I get home, I haven't broken into the box yet so was savoring it, but for the sale of curiosity I'll check it out tonight and break it open

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    I have never seen a Kodak/Eastman Kodak backing paper that was white or silver nor one without the maker's name & film type printed on it. The last 127 size Verichrome Pan films I saw were UK made with expiry dates in the 1970's and 1980 and the last rolls made in the USA which had expiry dates around 1983-85 I think. But all were yellow with black & red printing giving the make, film type & roll film size. They look much like the 116 backing papers illustrated above.

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    The paper backing says Made in USA as I recall, in the 50s there was Ansco which became Gaf, Kodak and Dupont, by the 60's to the 70's Dupont left the market, and GAF left in the late 70s leaving just Kodak. Ansco/Gaf made a lot relabled film, so it might have been house film of some sort. 3M made slide and negative film, but I think 3M ever made roll fill or for that matter black and white. I have a dim memory of GAF roll film with a similar paper backing.

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    Guys, I'm telling you it's a kodak roll of VerichromePan.... It's certainly kodak, I literally have a roll and posted it... I opened it brand new (expired but in an unopened package). Not sure how I can convince you any further...

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    I'm puzzled why Kodak would use a backing paper without their name on? I have never ever come across that before (& I've been around for a very long time!).

    As for 3M and rollfilm, in the 1980's, at least, they did make a professional colour neg roll film in 120 size which was branded 3M, although made in the Ferrania factory in Italy. It was not made in 127 nor do I recall any 3M branded black & white films in any size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brac View Post
    I'm puzzled why Kodak would use a backing paper without their name on? I have never ever come across that before (& I've been around for a very long time!).

    As for 3M and rollfilm, in the 1980's, at least, they did make a professional colour neg roll film in 120 size which was branded 3M, although made in the Ferrania factory in Italy. It was not made in 127 nor do I recall any 3M branded black & white films in any size.
    I don't know either, but it looks cool and certainly was not tampered with and came in it's original paper seal that WAS labeled kodak.

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    So OP did you ever develop it??

    I just looked at my film and the film also has no rebate on it at all ... Pretty fogged, scannable.

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    I haven't yet...a few projects around the house that need completing before I can get to souping anything again.

    I'll be sure to post up results when I do...pet peeve about forums is seeing a great discussion lead to OP saying: I'll post again when I know if it worked! and then 6 months later all that has happened is interested members asking about whether it ever happened or not and OP is gone.

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    Load the film into a tank in dark and see what the other end of the paper says.

    Or respool the film on to the other spool in dark to see what the leader says.

    Don't expect much when you soup it - if your summer's are hot.

    From memory it used to say verichrome pan at both ends.

    Time and temperature for the 120 is still on kodaks site as a PDF download.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmas View Post
    ....Time and temperature for the 120 is still on kodaks site as a PDF download.
    Whatever the site recommends, I would double the development time to compensate for the reduced sensitivity over time.
    —Eric

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