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    135 format to medium format.

    Hi all - been thinking about this for some yrs, got a job, done some extra savings to my past should hope to reach surplus next yr. Looking at a more systems camera like the Hasselblad 500. I do mostly landscapes / cityscapes even on travel with a tripod etc.

    Is a Gitzo traveler tripod ok, I know that a Pentax 67 would have a lot of mirror slap on such a light tripod. What about the Hasselblad?

    The other question is. Right now I am still using a rather old Nikon 18-35mm non G AF-D lens on my Nikon film camera. Should I update that the newer 16-35mm or even a 14-24mm - how would a Hasselblad compare with that? The Hasselblad lens would be a C T* lens. Not the more expensive CFE or what ...

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    Which focal length do you prefer for your landscapes in 35mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slixtiesix View Post
    Which focal length do you prefer for your landscapes in 35mm?
    I forget the Haselblad lenses now. But the 3 was a 80mm standard, might have been a 50 or 40mm for the wide and maybe a 150mm.

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    Just as a suggestion. Your tripod would work wonderfully with a Fuji GA645i or the Fuji GF670. Both wonderful cameras with terrific lenses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayonline_nz View Post
    Hi all - been thinking about this for some yrs, got a job, done some extra savings to my past should hope to reach surplus next yr. Looking at a more systems camera like the Hasselblad 500. I do mostly landscapes / cityscapes even on travel with a tripod etc.

    Is a Gitzo traveler tripod ok, I know that a Pentax 67 would have a lot of mirror slap on such a light tripod. What about the Hasselblad?

    The other question is. Right now I am still using a rather old Nikon 18-35mm non G AF-D lens on my Nikon film camera. Should I update that the newer 16-35mm or even a 14-24mm - how would a Hasselblad compare with that? The Hasselblad lens would be a C T* lens. Not the more expensive CFE or what ...
    I don't know about all Hasselblads, but with the 500C you can open the focal plane shutter and just use the diaphram shutter for exposure, hence no mirror slap.

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    You may want to research the medium format world a bit more before you jump into it. It's completely different to 35mm, there are several formats (6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7, 6x8, 6x9, 6x12 & 6x17) and different camera types (Folder, Rangefinder, SLR etc.) each with their own strengths & weaknesses. Hasslebalds are very expensive if you want to build a system.

    As for the lenses, most medium format lenses are primes (zooms are big, heavy & slow), compared to 35mm there are no 'rubbish' lenses and very few 'average' ones - most are good, very good or excellent (they were ALL designed for professional use). There are few independent lenses (those that exist are generally more expensive than the manufacturers own options). Measured by LPMM a very good 35mm lens might out resolve a medium format one, but for results on film, medium format will blow any 35mm lens out of water (the increase in film area sees to that). It's not even the resolution that matters, the tonal graduation is infinitely smoother than 35mm and this alone makes a huge difference.

    You're entire technique may have to change (fewer & more expensive shots tend to influence more thought/time going into each shot). It's not just the mirror slap but the extra mass of a medium format camera & lens combination can challenge some tripods. Most medium format SLRs have some form of mirror lock-up, so mirror slap can be zero. The 'Pentax 6x7' came in two versions, the early ones without mirror lock-up, the later (generally identified as 'MLU') have it. The later Pentax '67' also has mirror lock-up as standard - but I shoot mine handheld.

    I'd encourage you to get into medium format, but make sure you know what you want before spending $$$$ on some gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    I don't know about all Hasselblads, but with the 500C you can open the focal plane shutter and just use the diaphram shutter for exposure, hence no mirror slap.
    Uhh, 'scuse me??
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    There is no Hasselblad mirror slap except in the minds of range finger folks and we know that they are all deranged.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkKcbyh2CrA
    +1I never noticed a mirror-slap issue with any of my Hasselblsd 501cs either.The 50mm CFLE is a great start for MF landscapes.The 40mm is more for architecture,start with a 50,80 150mm combination.You'll be good for years to come.The Gitzo will do fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    That make no sense. However one can lock up the mirror on a Hasselblad to eliminate the nonexistent mirror slap.
    That's what I meant.

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    Those zooms probably have a wider field of view at their short end than any Hasselblad lens. But the Hasselblad lenses are most likely a good bit sharper than the zooms. The combination of a sharp prime and bigger negative will get you much better image quality than you would see in 35mm, given the lenses you've mentioned.

    People like to obsess about mirror slap on reflex cameras, but for most purposes, it's a non-issue.
    Not sure about the Pentax, but for the Hasselblad you can pre-release the mirror if you really need to avoid the possibility that vibration could spoil your shot.

    I doubt that a Hasselblad is all that much different from a Pentax 6x7 for weight, the Traveler would probably support either one adequately.

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