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    I want one!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicole Boenig-McGrade
    Bob, WOW, I really looove that image. It speaks to me in many ways!!! Wish I had a table, pans and books like that!!!
    Also could you explain to me what a TLR is and why it's different for ie. a Hasselblad 501c/m?
    Thanks! That was taken in the room where Daniel Boone was born. It's a wonderful park near Birdsboro, Pennsylvania.

    Jonathan beat me to answering your question about TLR's vs SLR's...
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    But the advantage of an SLR is that you see what the lens sees. With a TLR there is a potential problem of parallax error at close distances, so even TLRs that use some sort of parallax correction can't focus as close as an SLR--essentially the same problem a rangefinder camera has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb
    But the advantage of an SLR is that you see what the lens sees. With a TLR there is a potential problem of parallax error at close distances, so even TLRs that use some sort of parallax correction can't focus as close as an SLR--essentially the same problem a rangefinder camera has.
    Not quite true - a Mamiya TLR will focus to life size with its standard lens, and totally free of parallax with a Paramender device which raises the taking lens to the level of the viewing lens before a picture is taken. A Rollei TLR with genuine Rollei #2 close-up lenses (including the fat image-shifting lens for the camera viewing lens) will focus to 20 cm, again free of parallax.

    What no one has mentioned yet is the HUGE advantage of TLRs for portraiture - you can view the subject AT the moment of exposure and know instantly whether you have got a good shot or the subject has blinked!

    I think TLRs were the victims of fashion - they looked a bit old-fashioned and clunky. Paradoxically, the SLRs which replaced them became so heavy and bulky that it was then necessary to develop rollfilm rangefinder cameras for hand-holding, and even they weren't as light and compact as a Rollei TLR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicole Boenig-McGrade
    I want one!!!!!
    Yes, Nicole, you do.

    I bought my Yashica-D on a lark...the price was too good to pass up. But now that I've had it for a while, I find that it's filled a hole in my shooting that nothing else can quite fill. Large, sharp negatives with little or no set-up, all happening so quietly that nobody notices. To do this previously I had to "shoot from the hip" with a rangefinder or with a Crown Graphic. Neither of those were terribly good ways to work.

    (Of course, one can "shoot from the hip" with a medium format SLR...but after the first shot everyone knows what you're up to.)
    Film is cheap. Opportunities are priceless.

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    Go Ricoh!

    I love my Ricoh TLR that I paid about $100 several years ago. And yes it does free me up from the tripod and all that. Load up some APX100 or Acros and you're in for quite a treat. I love just walking around NYC with it. Extremely liberating!
    Regards, Peter

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    Nicole: You've gotta get one!

    I picked up not one, but two Yashicas, pretty much on a lark. I wanted to get into MF but wasn't about to spend the kind of money that a 'blad commands (even used).

    I picked up a 124G on ebay for about $80.00. It arrived in pretty decent condition, except that the light meter housing flopped around on it. Thanks to a terrific fellow APUGer, thats no longer a problem. I picked up a "D" (whose shutter release I like better), just because...

    My family looks at me cross-eyed, whenever I drag out the 124 at get togethers, but I'm hooked; it takes great photos! I'm still getting used to the waist level finder. It shows the opposite image, right to left, from what you actually see. But, once you get past it and work on composing the shot, it all works out fine.

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    Get one...you better believe it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicole Boenig-McGrade
    I want one!!!!!
    Hi Nicole,

    I hope the some day soon you spot one for a decent price? If I had loads of money I'd buy two or three and send you one across, they an awsome piece of kit. I have a beat up old Lubitel which was a Russian very cheap end of the market TLR, but it was great for learning the principles on. If you can find one around they useually come in well under the £30 mark. Like I say they're not fantastic in quality but the give you a good working knowledge of the principles & techniques of TLR shooting.

    I hope you find something...you'll definitly not regret it!

    Paul Berry

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    Quote Originally Posted by PB001
    ... Lubitel which was a Russian very cheap end of the market TLR, but it was great for learning the principles on. If you can find one around they useually come in well under the £30 mark. Like I say they're not fantastic in quality but the give you a good working knowledge of the principles & techniques of TLR shooting.
    Must disagree here - the Lubitel was part of a KGB plot to drive imperialist warmongers and running dogs of capitalism crazy. It has a peculiar viewfinder copied from an old Voigtländer camera called a Brilliant which was a non-focusing viewfinder. The Lubitel viewfinder has had a very small and dim center spot added, which is the only part you can use for focusing, and is excruciatingly difficult to use. Buy a Lubitel and I guarantee you will throw it away in disgust and be put off TLRs for life.

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    I'd also recommend staying away from the Lubitel and it's Chinese comrade, the Seagull. If you're looking for a decent TLR that's not too expensive, try a Minolta Autocord or Yashicamat.

    "Lubitel" in Russian means "amateur." It wasn't part of a KGB plot exactly (I know you're being toungue-in-cheek, David), but it was part of a state campaign to encourage amateurism in the arts, in opposition to the decadent bourgeois elitism and rootless cosmopolitanism that we're all familiar with.
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