Switch to English Language Passer en langue française Omschakelen naar Nederlandse Taal Wechseln Sie zu deutschen Sprache Passa alla lingua italiana
Members: 70,569   Posts: 1,545,467   Online: 1192
      
Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 35
  1. #1

    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Munich
    Shooter
    Medium Format
    Posts
    48

    6x6 vs 35mm (again)

    I read a number af threads over the different photography fori's over the past period oftime on the difference between 120 and 35mm cameras. I use both, and obviously my 6x6 turns out the brighter, crispier and nicer negatives and prints... but is this a reason to increase 6x6 shooting as opposed to 35mm ... I have asked myself that and come up with the conlusion that for my type of shooting a 35mm is top, I love the tri-x / D-76 grain, I love the responsiveness of my "little" nikon, I actually like the "blur" of larger enlargments, it is certainly more atmospheric than the clean cut 6x6 es I shoot, it's so easy to shoot a sharp picture with the right equipement but although the end result is technicallly very good it lacks the personality of a 35mm shot, if sharpness is required shoot digital and photoshop the blasted thing and subsequently turn your image into a hairsharp, unnaturally coloured disney-land sort of picture of which 1000's are shot every day ... for images with character I use my beloved 35mm ....

    having been a real fan of MF cameras over the past 3 years, I am coming back on that .... any others that went through similar experiences ?

  2. #2
    Mongo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    960
    I won't say I've gone back to 35mm...more that I've never left it. I love MF and LF gear, but sometimes 35mm is the right tool for the job. Sometimes I want rough, grainy images. (For me, early morning fog is the perfect example of where I like the grain to intrude a bit into the image. Not that MF and LF won't give spectacular results on foggy mornings...just that sometimes I'm in the mood for an image with a rough edge and 35mm Tri-X is a great way to get what I want.)

    The other thing is that, of course, some situations are just easier to shoot with 35mm. Nobody notices my Contax G1 in a crowd, but you can bet that even my smallest MF camera (a Fuji GA645) attracts attention. And pulling out a Crown Graphic is an open invitation for people to make me the center of attention. So some shots are almost impossible with anything other than 35mm.

    I love every format that I shoot, but all for different reasons. I'm fortunate enough to have a collection of equipment that allows me to match the equipment with both the situation I'll be in and the mood I want the picture to create.

    An interesting topic...thanks for bringing it up.
    Film is cheap. Opportunities are priceless.

  3. #3
    brent8927's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Oak Park, IL
    Shooter
    Medium Format
    Posts
    274
    Images
    18
    I've actually only used my 35mm once since I bought a medium format camera, and the only reason was because my 6x6 (then a Bronica S2A) was getting repaired. When I want something grainy I use 3200 speed film, which actually doesn't look too grainy (I only print approx 7x7) but is does have an atmospheric look to it.

    Honesty though, the main reason I prefer 6x6 is it just feels better. I love composing with the waist lever finder, the size of the camera, the shutter speed and aperature controls on the lens. I have also found that the square works wonders with my imagry.

    6x6 just works best for me, but you'll find so many people out there who say 35mm works best for them, or 4x5 or 8x10 (or the really crazy ULF shooters!) and even <gasp> digital cameras. I'm happy to hear that you've found a format that you really enjoy that also supports the imagry you're looking for.

  4. #4
    Dave Parker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    4,049
    I think it is purely personal choice based on your style of shooting, I have shot, 35, MF and LF for many years now, and there are certain shots that just work on certain formats...

    Looking through a ground glass, is an exciting experiance, as is looking through a viewfinder at a charging Bison on 35mm, and the waist level shooting of 6x6 has it thrilling moments as well,

    I would hate to think, I would have to limit myself to any one format...not in my make up.

    Dave

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    3,407
    Hmmm. For closeup with flash, my Nikons set up much more quickly and are generally easier to use than my Graphics. Similarly for anything that requires quick framing and focusing, i.e., moving subjects.

  6. #6
    jimgalli's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Tonopah Nevada
    Shooter
    ULarge Format
    Posts
    3,402
    Blog Entries
    2
    Images
    155
    Just the opposite for me. Cameras are tools and I'm a right tool for the job type person. The bigger cameras replaced 35mm for me some time back but i always kept my Nikon system for magazine requirements etc. When the Olympus digital got to be as good as 35 for those jobs I dumped the Nikon on Ebay. For a big loss I might add as everyone else is doing the same thing right now. The only MF that's getting used much is the Minolta Autocord simply because it's awesome on the grandbabies. But the fun cameras are the 8X10++ ones with the big brass antique lenses. That's what makes the world go round.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep..to gain that which he cannot lose. Jim Elliot, 1949

    http://tonopahpictures.0catch.com

  7. #7
    cao
    cao is offline
    cao's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Shooter
    35mm
    Posts
    188
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongo
    The other thing is that, of course, some situations are just easier to shoot with 35mm. Nobody notices my Contax G1 in a crowd, but you can bet that even my smallest MF camera (a Fuji GA645) attracts attention. And pulling out a Crown Graphic is an open invitation for people to make me the center of attention. So some shots are almost impossible with anything other than 35mm.
    Same here. I can run around all day with a Spotmatic and a small lens, and no one notices me at all. I was taking some dog snaps at a marina a couple of day ago with my RB to finish off a roll, and some boaters nearby ask each other "who hired the photog?" MF and bigger cameras don't lend themselves to invisibility.

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Shooter
    Sub 35mm
    Posts
    1,322
    Get one of each

  9. #9
    gnashings's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    1,376
    Images
    17
    I tend to agree with the right tool for the job philosophy... but not really the comparison of MF to photoshopped digital images. I love my 35mm cameras, for reasons that have all been mentioned already as well as others: for very little, I have normal, telephoto and wide angle at my disposal witha 35mm slr, much less than a good MF outfit would cost me. And yes, I know that you get what you pay for - but its better to have something than nothing, and there are some great lenses available for most 35mm SLRs. But... there is something about that big, beautiful negative at the end of a MF shot. Makes me fear the day I can afford to get into larger formats... for now I am safe due to finances. I also find that I take more time, and my mind tends to compse better on a square format.

    One thing, perhaps a bit off topic - I find that when I shoot 35mm most of the shots are done with the camera on its side (vertical)... Has anyone else had this phenomenon? See, the 6x6 eliminates that problem I am ok with that, but I notice that my wife has trouble handling an SLR in that position, one of the reasons why she is joined at the hip with a QL17 ever since the two met...

    And yes, even a little TLR seems to draw attention, if not because of size, then because of its unusual (to the average person) appearance. My Lubitel is tiny, inconspicous... but people still flock to see what that "cute little old fashioned thing" is!

  10. #10
    Mongo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    960
    Quote Originally Posted by gnashings
    Makes me fear the day I can afford to get into larger formats... for now I am safe due to finances.
    I could tell you a few tips that would help you get into LF inexpensively...I'm the ultimate bottom-feeder when it comes to LF.

    Quote Originally Posted by gnashings
    One thing, perhaps a bit off topic - I find that when I shoot 35mm most of the shots are done with the camera on its side (vertical)... Has anyone else had this phenomenon?
    The vast majority of my photographs are taken vertically, in every format from 35mm to 8x10. In fact, the reason I'm working on a 6x14 panoramic camera is primarily to shoot vertical panoramics. (I think "vertical panoramic" is probably a non-sequitor.)

    If I crop a 6x6 print to standard paper size, I find that I almost always crop it vertically.

    I have nothing against horizontal composition, and in fact most of the artwork on my walls is horizontal...but for some reason I'm drawn to vertical compositions. Probably brain damage from my mis-spent youth.
    Film is cheap. Opportunities are priceless.

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast


 

APUG PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Contact Us  |  Support Us!  |  Advertise  |  Site Terms  |  Archive  —   Search  |  Mobile Device Access  |  RSS  |  Facebook  |  Linkedin