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    What flash for the Mamiya RZ67? Will Canon Speedlites work?

    Hello,

    I shoot mostly 35mm (ok, it's digital) but I dabble quite a bit in MF and LF. My system of choice is Canon, so I have a couple of flashes (550EX and Sigma DG 500). I'd love to be able to use them on the Mamiya. Will they work? Should I even try to mount them? Is my only hope a PC connector?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jedrek
    Hello,

    I shoot mostly 35mm (ok, it's digital) but I dabble quite a bit in MF and LF. My system of choice is Canon, so I have a couple of flashes (550EX and Sigma DG 500). I'd love to be able to use them on the Mamiya. Will they work? Should I even try to mount them? Is my only hope a PC connector?
    I'd leave out the "ok, its digital" part...first. But, I'm glad you asked that because i have an RZ but have not had any use for a flash. I would, however, like to know that kind of info from RB and RZ users on apug.. I'm sure my old Vivitar 285 would work just fine. Sorry, no help here except for getting rid of the D word.

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    I would not recommend using your speedlights, they have different trigger voltages than the RB puts out and could cause damage to the flashes, pick up and old Vivitar 285 or simular type flash and it will work fine, I used an RB with a 285 for years in a studio and it was a great combination, also the speed lights are programed to work with the Canon bodies and the various flash modes it has, the RB has no programed flash modes hence you, if it would work would get unpredictable results.

    As Drew said, get rid of the (Okay its digital)!



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    What is trigger voltage? I assumed that was something the flash put out, and the camera just closed the circuit to fire the flash. How do you find the trigger voltage? I am in a similar situation and wish to fire a Nikon flash from an RZ67. I have used the Nikon flash with my large format lenses and haven't had any problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L Gebhardt
    What is trigger voltage? I assumed that was something the flash put out, and the camera just closed the circuit to fire the flash. How do you find the trigger voltage? I am in a similar situation and wish to fire a Nikon flash from an RZ67. I have used the Nikon flash with my large format lenses and haven't had any problem.
    The newer flashes have different voltages that are feed between the flashes and the newer program cabable cameras, so you can actually damage the flash or the camera, if you have the PC flash socket on your camera, which the RB does and the flash has the PC cababilitiy then all may be fine, what Nikon flash are you using with your LF gear? This is information passed along from the various camera reps when I was working in the camera store, as said the Vivitar 285 is a great flash and they are cheap now a days, pretty much any older camera with the center post flash shoe will trigger most any newer flash with the center pole, but the accumilated triggering over time can damage the flash, I fried a Minolta AF 4000 flash using it on a Mamiya 645, your milage may vary.

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    Sorry guys, I read RZ and thought RB, I have never shot an RZ, so the circutry might be different, I would email canon support and ask them the same question..

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    I have used a Nikon SB80DX and an older Sunpak PZ5000 (I think that's it) with Nikon adapter with the LF gear.

    So is the PC socket voltage standardized? The SB80 has a PC socket, so I guess I could fire it through that. I was using a PC to Shoe adapter in the past.

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    Worse case you could get a safe sync to protect the camera. It's not newer flashes that are the problem it's older ones. Newer ones are designed to not damage new cameras with built in computers. Older cameras and LF lenses are much tougher.

    http://aaronlinsdau.com/gear/articles/flashvoltage.html

    I just glanced at it so check it closely but it seems to cover measuring your flash voltage.

    I don't think the RZ has any fancy flash features. So no need to get an advanced flash.

    You might try asking on the Mamiya MAC forum. The tech support tends to be pretty good but they won't know about third party flashes. But they might tell you if it's safe to use the hotshoe.

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    The trigger voltage is internal to the flash. The camera has nothing to do with it unless it's one of the newer cameras with electronic switching.
    Any camera with a mechanical shutter will work with any flash unit regardless of the trigger voltage.
    With an electronically controlled switch you must be aware of this voltage and the polarity of the voltage to prevent reducing the cameras circuit board to ash. Slight exageration here but it is possible to functionally destroy the board.
    The only damage I've seen from high TV has been arcing or pitting of the contacts. OK in really extreme cases it's possible to see the sw. contacts welded together.
    Heavily sedated for your protection.

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    Besides a Safe Synch you can get a Wein SSR Jr. Infrared. Their nice and I use it on everything to trigger any flash.

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