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    Quote Originally Posted by tony lockerbie View Post
    I just feel happy for Cosina, a once humble manufacturer of cheap and cheerfuls and just look at them now. They found a niche and jumped in with both size 10's. They supported traditional photography when all seemed bleak, so they deserve all the success that they have.
    I agree. Who else still actively develops and manufactures film cameras that I want to buy, besides Cosina and Fujifilm? (Ok, toy and LF/ULF are in different leagues.)

    I think in some sense they can get more camera and optics engineers if they want, since there are lots of engineers who are just too old for digital camera manufacturers.

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    As long as Hasselblad doesn't discontinue all the other CFi/CFE lenses and keep only these for the "classic" V system... Not that I really care, I have four lenses and don't need any more.
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    I am not concerned where Zeiss has their lenses made but where is it indicated that these lenses are made by Cosina?
    Claire (Ms Anne Thrope is in the darkroom)

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    perhaps zeiss just came across a bunch of old stock in a warehouse and stamped "Classic" on em?

    I have a growing resentment for collectors that drive up prices of camera equipment. I want to buy this stuff to actually use, not fondle all night. why can't they just collect stamps or something?

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    Where is it indicated that these lenses are made by Cosina?

    I rather doubt that they are because the mtf charts are unchanged. I think that it is merely remounted elements.
    Claire (Ms Anne Thrope is in the darkroom)

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    Does anyone know whether the new Zeiss/Cosina lenses have been reformulated in any way? Since Hasselblad itself seems to have decided that the future is with Fuji, I have been wondering whether the new Zeiss/Cosina connection might be the only way to get improvements in matters such as coatings, which seem to be improving in the d---l world.

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    It's easy to prove whether or not these ZEISS ZV CLASSIC lenses are made by COSINA! Look up whether they are Made in Japan or Made in Germany!

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger Bob View Post
    Does this mean that since I have only C lenses made in the 70's for my Hasselblad that I no longer have mega bling? That I should hang my head in shame when others observe me making photographs at or near -282? I'll ever be able to photograph in public in Vegas either? I feel shame.
    Dude,do you really expect us to believe you live at the bottom of Death Valley?I've walked the mile or so NW from from Badwater out to the unmarked lowest spot that's supposed to be lowest.......nobody lives there!

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    Zeiss has licenced other manufacturers to produce their designs right from the very early days. I have a "Zeiss anastigmat lens", manufactured by Ross of London in about 1890! The labelling is totally honest, it states that it was manufactured by Ross, but many Zeiss lenses over the years have been manufactured by many other companies under licence without the labelling being quite so transparent.

    More recently Yashica has produced Zeiss lenses and who really knows where the lenses on Sony and Nikon products are actually made?
    And now, Cosina...

    Except I don't think it is that simple. Yashica had it's lenses made by a huge Japanese optical manufacturer called Tomioka opitical. Eventually Yashica aquired Tomioka and later Kyocera aquired Yashica. Yashica has now pulled out of traditional camera manufacture but AFAIK the former Tomioka plant is still going strong as 'Kyocera optec'. Zeiss certainly had a big connection with Kyocera/Yashica in the 1990s and I suspect Kyocera optiec in Nagano is probably where the Zeiss lenses for most Japanese cameras (including the modern Contax) were made.

    I once read that Minolta is the only camera manufacturer in Japan that makes it's own lenses. If that is true, that would mean all the others buy them in from elsewhere. Including Cosina - from who, I wonder? IF it is true, that is...

    And the situation now? What is the relationship between Kyocera and Carl Zeiss Japan and Zeiss Ikon? And is there one between Cosina and Kyocera?

    I have absolutely no idea!!!

    But what would be an authentic Zeiss lens anyway? One made in Obercocken, Gurtingen, Halbergmoose, Aarlen or Wetzlar?
    Or Jena or Dresden or Stuttgart?
    Or Nagano or Tokyo?

    I reckon if it is a Zeiss design and quality control is high enough for Zeiss to be happy to stamp their name on it then firstly it doesn't matter, but secondly, we may never know for certain where a lens has come from anyway!

    And it isn't just lenses: What is an Audi if not a Skoda with a more expensive badge on the bonnet?
    (And they are both owned by Volkswagon !! )

    Just my thoughts

    Steve

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