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    Bronica S problem: advancing flim, skipping frames

    I just got a Bronica S (NOT an S2) the other day and I'm having some problems with it.

    The biggest problem I'm having is loading film. Sometimes I'll put the film in, close the back and advance waiting for the counter to reach "0". For the first 3 films I put in, the counter didn't advance and I ended up winding the film from one spool to the other

    I just put a roll of Tri-X through over the weekend and while the pictures came out fine (exposure, focus) frame 12 was blank because two exposures were done over each other (around frame 4.)

    I'm wondering if I've got a lemon here, if it just needs basic oiling or I'm doing something wrong? I've read that before the S2, Bronicas used brass gears which could be seen as an Achilles Heel.

    Any advice, insight, etc. would be appreciated ...
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    Sounds like a problem with the back more likely than with the camera, but you should send both in to be checked out. The usual recommendations for repairs in the U.S. are Frank Marshman, whom I use, at Camera Wiz in Harrisonburg, VA and Koh's Cameras on Long Island (www.kohscameras.com), but I suspect there's someone closer to home in Japan.

    I don't know if there are other Japanese participants on the Bronica forum on Yahoo!Groups, but you might ask there for service recommendations in Japan.
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    Thanks for the advice. I know a few camera places downtown who might be able to help me out.

    Perhaps switching backs would fix the problem ...
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    Another question: are backs from the Bronica S2 compatible with the S?
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    Yes, S/S2/S2a backs are all compatible. There were earlier backs that were 120 only, but all of mine are 12/24 backs that switch between 120 and 220.

    EC and EC-TL backs and backs for the later SQ system are not compatible with the S-series.
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    Thanks! That's what I thought.
    I'm going to go for an S2 back and see if that fixes things. If it does, I'm all set. If not I'll get it looked at and have two backs anyway
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    Bronica stuff is pretty cheap these days. I got most of my backs (I have five, plus a parts back that I converted to a groundglass back) for around $80 each some years ago, and they're probably less now, so you can afford to use the Zone system and have two speeds of color or shoot all day without reloading, if you want.
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    I have a Bronica s2a and when I was first learning to use it, I found that if the film carrier was not seated squarely in the back so that both of the levers snapped back into place, then the film counter did not engage correctly... sometimes it wound all the way thorugh and never registered on the counter and sometimes it never engaged the winding mechnism at all and you would wind & wind and the film never moved.

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    Did they ever make a 645 back for the S/S2/S2a series?

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    Yes, there was a 645 back. It's one of the few S2a accessories I've never owned. They don't come up too often. It's a horizontal back. There is a 90 degree prism that might make verticals less awkward with such a thing, but the prism is kind of dark, so I never considered the 645 back to be terribly practical. Better to shoot 6x6 and be able to crop horizontal from anywhere in the frame.
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