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Old 07-04-2008, 02:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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Silverprint Gloomy; like Aladdin’s Cave was gloomy. Martin will be distraught to think his emporium could be described as “gloomy”; in fact cut to the quick I should think. By the way Silverprint is about 200 yards from the Old Vic, if that’s not on the tourist trail I don’t know what is.
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Old 07-04-2008, 02:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
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'Silverprint are OK, but they are in a rather gloomy area southeast of Waterloo Station that I wouldn't expect to be on most tourist routes, and it is a bit of a gloomy place when you get there.'

Silverprint in my opinion is in an excellent location in London and a few minutes walk to the South Bank and Borough with all their delights. Some nice pubs nearby too but they are hidden away so best to ask the not gloomy at all staff for directions! I'm a big one for not shopping online if possible and the selection of film available in Silverprint and Process Supplies, (www.process-supplies.co.uk - another great London institution near Clerkenwell) is competitively priced, available over the counter and they have a far better choice of stock than these internet places which have Kodak, Ilford and maybe Fuji. I appreciate that we are lucky in London in that we have such good suppliers of photographic materials compared to other parts of the country so I do feel it is important to use them. Have a great time in London, it has a lot to offer photographers.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:25 AM   #23 (permalink)
 
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I too have had 120 scanned many times through xrays (mainly due to language and time restraints) with no apparent effects.

However, when I'm in the UK I have always politely asked at Heathrow for hand checks, they have seen "Professional" in the branding and have been happy to check by hand. I'm always polite and to add more fuel to a legitimate hand-search, I always say it has been rated at 6400 ASA. The machines state the highest range they are safe for (3200ASA if memory is correct) and this falls way over that range.

You can of course as others have said, simply buy your film in London and ship it home. Of course there is always the possibilty your favorite brand isn't available or the exchange rate is crazy!

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Old 07-05-2008, 03:08 AM   #24 (permalink)
 
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[i]I'm a big one for not shopping online if possible...
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I'm too die-hard for not shopping online. However, two weeks ago I get back from Scotland and while on holiday I was also looking to fill up my fridge since the film prices in Croatia. I was at Jessops shop in Glasgow and the guy that works there said that Jessops don't offer discount on 10 pack rolls any more. Price of Ilford film at Jessops shop is something like 3.30 pound/pc and 10 pack ordered online is around 17 pound. I just had to buy it online but didn't buy anything off list. When I'm in store colorful bags on shelfs are too attractive not to buy something off list, resistance is futile. :-) This year I bough only stuff from the list.

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Old 07-05-2008, 08:56 AM   #25 (permalink)
 
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Thanks a lot!
Well, I'm concerned with xray for the following reason: I never had a problem with xray and 135mm and thought that it was the same with 120mm, so I used no protection. It was scanned in numerous airports in
South America, and also in some places in Madrid. I got the following results

http://www.pbase.com/assafbe/image/95348844
(look at the magenta stripe)

http://www.pbase.com/assafbe/image/95349284
(way underexposed due to a slow speed problem but what is it?)

http://www.pbase.com/assafbe/image/95344840
(underexposed, but xray or light leak?)

If you want to see better and non messed up pictures look in my pbase and flickr

http://www.pbase.com/assafbe/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25967298@N02/

Can you scan the whole strip of your negative film? It is very difficult to judge on a single photo whether it has been striked by x ray. Film striked by x ray may show repeating pattern across frames. Please take a look at some sample film striked by x ray shown in Kodak's website:

http://www.kodak.com/go/xray
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:26 AM   #26 (permalink)
 
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I travelled with 120 film from Japan to the US and back last summer and I had no problems. I had two bulging xray bags which probably surprised the TSAs. At all inspection points both xray bags were opened and hand inspected (I didn't ask specifically.) My backpack, with the xray bag, was then rescanned. Everyone was professional.

About mailing your film back, I've read here and there on the internet that that might not be a good idea. Don't they xray packages?
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Old 07-05-2008, 10:00 AM   #27 (permalink)
 
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Rule number one: always carry on your film. The checked baggage x-rays are definitely strong enough to mark your film, but carry-on xray machines won't hurt it.

To put your mind at ease, you can buy and process all your film while you are there, but it is really not necessary.

Re: the fellow above's statement that the carry-on machines are safe up to ISO 3200. The fastest films you can get, Delta 3200 and TMax 3200, are really only ISO 800-1000. How you rate them does not change the true ISO one bit, so even they are safe.

Interesting trivia re: x-rays: According to the data sheet for Efke IR820, there is more of a risk of ruining this film by bringing it out into room light than there is having it scanned by a carry-on baggage scanner (in 35mm, due to the felt's poor ability to block IR).
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:49 PM   #28 (permalink)
 
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That is correct, however, the guys that scan the stuff aren't taught the intricacies of film. They are simply informed that 3200 is "safe" and anything above that isn't. I travel as a photographer on aircraft 95% of the year, and by stating that the film is rated higher, in my case 6400asa, they are always happy to hand check. Plus they also believe that "Professional" on the box means it should be hand checked too. I've never had a problem, with hand checks even to the point of it being tested for explosives. (Why can't they all do this, it's soooo much easier?)
Just remember to be polite and understand they have a job to do too.
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Old 07-06-2008, 04:01 AM   #29 (permalink)
 
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[...}it is a bit of a gloomy place when you get there.[...]
Blimey ... I am unsure about the gloomy bit of the area. It offers lots of small restaurants and pubs, and it is a always a pleasure to walk around there, the side streets are probably off the beaten touristy track, surely for the better, and minutes walk from the big attractions towards the south bank as was mentioned before.
Also, it is always worth a visit at Silverprint .. it is our one shop in London.

As for buying film over the counter, I find film competitively priced at Silverprint and Jacobs. I always have a discount at both places on film purchases, it being 20% off on all brands at Jacobs.
Also customer service is always excellent.
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Well if you are worried, then buy it in London and have it processed there too. It's not like you are going to some third world country where you can't buy the films and have them processed before you leave.
Actually this is not the best procedure if you're a professional and image quality is your livelihood. If your image quality is important you need to test your film, especially if it is color, and have that test processed in the lab where you intend on processing all of that film prior to shooting images of any importance. Just buying your film over seas and giving it to some untested local lab, even in a major city, can be disastrous.
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