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    Hello:

    I read opinions on Pxxxx.net on the Moskva 5.

    I would be interested in hearing comments from people who hae something good to say about it. I already know there are many who disapprove :O)

    Thanks

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    Well, I haven't played with one, but the basics are simple.

    This is an older camera from the USSR. Like most of them from that era it is based on Zeiss design. The Soviets LOVED to do that. And it was a smart move really. Let Zeiss design it, we will build it.

    You will face of course the usual pitfalls.

    - Bellows - Pinholes will almost certainly exist. Just PLAN on them. Get the Bostick and Sullivan repair kit.

    - Shutter - Might be stuck or off or whatever.

    - Flocking - Might be gone.

    This holds with ANY camera though.

    If all this works, you could have a decent camera. Lens quality I have heard on ALL the Soviet cameras can vary widely at times. From "Holy crap! This is amazing!" to "All my pictures look like I took them of mud!" Don't count on any coatings besides what nature has provided. This can be good though. I mean people use Holgas and such all the time. Sharp is not always best. Just keep that in mind.
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    I bought mine a year ago and have enjoyed it. I made sure it had the 6x6 mask and case, figured this would ensure someone cared about it. I have read the feedback, but mine has been good, sharp lens, shutter on, bellows light tight, even the rangefinder is on. Best advice is to be selective/careful of who you buy from, but get one, they are fun to use and good ones produce great results.

    By the way the ruby window lets in too much light for color film but B&W is fine.

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    OK - thanks all.

    I read that the '5' definitely has coated optics.

    Too late to be picky about where I got it - price was th efactor and I already sent payment ($35 + 15 ship - can't complain and worth fixing if not up to snuff).

    Seller says everything is working - 21 day guarantee
    (probably takes 20-22 days for delivery :O) just kidding).

    Regarding the red window; does it open/close like an Agfa folder? I am assuming one can keep it closed and check winding for color carefully and quickly in subdued light (DOWN, you photon you!)

    Thanks

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    Wow. The 5 has coated optics? Cool.

    Actually now I am considering one....
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    Hello, OP.nV in particular:

    Some of the links on Alfed's Camera page explicitly note the coated optics and the Russian letter that designates coated optics; a red Cyrillic version of the English (I don't know if it's really English) 'p' that looks vaguely like pi, depending on the font, and is described as an 'upside down 'n' ' visually.

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    Now What?

    Got the Moskva 5.

    Glass looks good, shutter sounds good, bellows looks good, no light leak check yet.

    Standard doesn't lock as rigidly as I'd like. Is there a fix?

    I took some measurements with a depth micrometer and camera balanced on gage blocks across the film plane, opened closed it and reopened it taking two sets of measurements at 90 degree rotations - there is definitely about 0.030" of tilt in the lens plane - much thicker than film so I presume this is a problem.

    Thanks

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    Hello:

    The lens is not parallel to the film plane by about 0.030" measured at the lens distance ring, just beyond the glass.

    This may be in part due to very loose rivets on the folding arms.

    I am figuring out a way to tighten them without removing the bellows.

    If necessary, then I'll need to find out how other have shimmed the lens mount for parallelism.

    The retaining nut for the lens/shutter doesn't look like much fun to loosen, compared to a Agfa folder which was easy.

    On the Moskva, when closed, the bellows partially covers the retaining nut. Accessing the retaining nut when the bellows is extended will be interesting, and probably need another custom tool.

    Comments appreciated

    Murray
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    Hello:

    Series VI 39.5 mm push on adapter was a bear to get on and two bears to get off.

    I took some wet/dry silicon carbide paper a caliper and the adapter ring to the laundromat yesterday and 'honed' about 0.002" off the inside diameter of the ring.

    I think I had measured 1.5715" and 1.565" respectively for the lens and ring. I ended up at about 1.570 for the ring. It slips on easily now, and takes a modest effort to remove (so it won't fall off).

    I think it will even rotate well enough to use with a polarizer (with some care) without affecting focus.

    Next step is fixing the wobbly folder rivets and lens parallelism.

    Murray
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