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    holder for 120 roll and 220 roll?

    sorry to ask such a stupid question

    i am watching the Bronica cameras on the bay

    i notice that some of them come with a 220 back,
    is it ok to put 120 roll on a 220 back?

    'cos i probably will use 120 only

    thanks

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    You could run 120 throught a 220 back but I would advise against it. Since 220 only has a paper leader and no paper backing the 220 backs are made to have thinner material pass through, so it is a good chance that 120 film could get scratched running it through a 220 back. And it's possible it could jam up.

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    Which Bronica? With the ETR and I guess SQ the back just holds the film insert. You can replace the 220 insert with a 120 insert. OTOH just inserts aren't much cheaper then whole 120 backs.

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    I have an SQ-Ai and until recently have only had 220 backs which I ran both 120 and 220 through without any problems at all. The only extra thing i needed to do was to note '120' on the little film info card I stuck in the back so that I would remember to wind it up after my 12th shot. But seriously, no problems with tension and no damaged to the film or (obviously) the film back.
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  5. #5

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    i will avoid it then
    each of them can be vary a little bit...

    thanks very much for the answers

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    oh!

    just dont want to open a new thread...
    there are some bargain camera body on KEH without advance crank,
    if i go for them, is there any place i can get a replacement crank?

    thanks

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    They're hard to come by, are you looking at ETR or SQ? I don't have the original winder on my SQ-Ai and am looking to find one (they're darn near impossible to track down as they have a very specific way of connecting to the body), but the ETR cranks apparently fit the SQs so you shouldn't have too hard of a time. I've seen a few come up on the 'bay', but you might have to end up buying an old 'for repair/parts' body or just buy another body sometime down the line and sell the old one without the crank.
    -dereck|james|gignac
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    If you can't find a advanced crank, and they are hard to find, just buy a speed grip. The crank is removed to mount the speed grip, thus the lack of crank on some bodies. Speed grips are easy to find.

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    I bought a whole body with WLF finder to get a crank for a ETRSI. It cost less then buying the spare part :rolleyes:

    But like mentioned you can add a grip in it's place.

  10. #10

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    i am trying to get a GS-1

    the price on KEH is very attractive
    but because i am in UK...
    so i probably end up paying 1.5x of the price for the camera due to the shipping
    and the stupid VAT in UK

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