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    By the way, you can also shoot readyloads or quickload sheets on the rb with the 545i polaroid back (now cheap). You get ~72mm squares; with a little modification I get 3x3 inch squares.
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    Just curious: are these special back options (6x8, 72x72) also available for the rz67 series or is this rb67 only? I'm still undecided between these two ...

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    No, there is no 6x8 back for the rz. I think it may be possible to build an adapter but I haven't done that. Note that the rb lenses work on the rz in manual mode, so that's a great way to save some money if you do go with an rz. With the exception of the 50 uld and the 100/2.8, the two lens families are very similar in performance.
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    I was asked some pertinent questions in a PM and will paste in my response here in case it is of use to someone else...

    Quote Originally Posted by me
    The rz has no time controls on the lenses... the exposure is controlled by a selector on the camera body. Also, the rz lenses also will not fire at any speed other than 1/400 without a battery in the rz body. Also, the rz passes full exposure information electronically to the back.... so rz lenses plus an rz body would be the more convenient choice if you plan to shoot digitally. The rb lenses, on the rz, won't pass the electronic information, you'd have to enter it manually (no big deal actually).

    Using rb lenses on the rz is easy, you just select the times on the lens, that's all. Some people like the single stroke winding/cocking action of the rz, to me it's no big deal.

    As for me I have both and use the rb much more!
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    Well, it arrived today and I couldn't be more pleased. It is a fine camera. It's a big sucker with the lens, lens shade and film back on it, but not as heavy as I expected. I'm going to look for a small backpack with room for the camera, a couple of lenses, film, filters and 3-4 backs etc, that I can fill with "something" to protect everything. How do you all pack your RB's?
    The only thing I found odd is that it was shipped with a -1.5 diopter correction on the magnifier, which apparently is standard. It's easy enough to use with glasses, so I'm wondering why they do this.
    I'm anxiously awaiting daylight to go try it out.
    One other thing for you Canadians. I paid no duty or taxes. All I had to do was sign for it at the Post Office. I've never paid duty on photo supplies from the US, and assumed it either the items were small enough that it wasn't worth their bother or was something to do with the Free Trade Agreement. This camera was a pretty big ticket item and came from Hong Kong. But I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth.
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    How do you all pack your RB's?
    Super, no duty or tax, I carry mine in a Lowepro camera backpack. Maybe not the best but easy. When shooting I put the camera over my shoulder while on the tripod. Gotta love that revolving back. The Grafmatics fit and the older Graphic backs in 2 1/4 sq. and 2 1/4 x 2 3/4 no. 22 and no. 23 also work. I had several of them for my Graflex international back on my Busch C before I got the RB and found they work great.

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    One other thing for you Canadians. I paid no duty or taxes. All I had to do was sign for it at the Post Office. I've never paid duty on photo supplies from the US, and assumed it either the items were small enough that it wasn't worth their bother or was something to do with the Free Trade Agreement. This camera was a pretty big ticket item and came from Hong Kong. But I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth.
    Lucky you. They have snagged me twice for duty on shipments from the USA in the last 3 yrs. Enjoy your camera. It looks as if we will be getting a late winter and the trees will be nice with colour film .

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    Johnny, the RB 67 is much easier operate and hand hold with the Mamiya L grip with trigger release, it enables you hold the camera and fire the shutter with your left hand while focusing and supporting the camera with your right, I don't have an RB myself but my Mamiya C330 F uses the same grip, and it really improves the handling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnywalker View Post
    How do you all pack your RB's?
    The rb is a tank, you can pack it any old way you want! When I took one to Iceland I just stuck it in a box and sent it through. I have also dropped mine in various ways and from great heights... no problem. I mean, this is the camera for me, I don't have to coddle it.

    Anyway, for travel there are two things you will probably want: body caps (front and rear) and there is also a gizmo that locks the mirror in place. I have been thinking of re-rigging all the knobs so they will pop off... they are the only thing that keeps the capped body from being a perfect cube, which more convenient for packing.

    One more thing, especially pertinent to travel if weight is a major concern: the prisms are way heavier than they should be IMHO. So you'll want a compact hand meter, plus an understanding of the bellows factor chart on the side of your rb. On the other hand, I often lift my rb by the prism and it's never broken so... (by now you will have gotten the picture that I really don't treat my gear specially)

    One thing I have succeeded in breaking on the rb system: the dual cable release. So I try to keep spares and normal releases just in case. But I have unnaturally strong fingers, apparently... I break cable releases all the time.

    If you start to acquire rb lenses then you will quickly realize that this is where the weight is, when you pack for travel! A one lens kit is no big deal. But pack a 65, 127 and 210 or similar kit and two backs... :rolleyes:
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    I just posted a couple of pictures from my first roll. I went to a local creek with a waterfall just to try it all out. I'm going to love this camera.
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