Yes, of course, Matt: I forgot to list that the other big advantage (for certain pix) is the leaf shutters in Hassies. I don't automatically think of this as an advantage over 6x7 because I am used to an RZ, not a Pentax 67, so I assume leaf shutter for 6x7 format.
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I have both a Hasselblad and a Pentax 67II. I love them both, but I got the Pentax for one reason: focal plane shutter. I can put any glass I want on the front.
I've made an adapter for the Pentax so I can use my old small petzval lenses. It works great. My website has several images done with that setup.
So, I mostly use the Pentax now.
Hasselblads are expensive. I'm not sure you'll see much difference in image quality, especially considering your scanner method. I've thought often of selling my Hassy stuff, but it was my first real serious camera, so I just can't. Plus I bought it new....
Steve, what small petzvals do you use? I'm trying to get one to fit my Hasselblad 201f with focal plane shutter.... Curious what small petzval sI should look out for?
Originally Posted by 2F/2F
I have the 90mm Leaf Shutter lens for my 6x7.
John, Mount Vernon, Virginia USA
many years ago i decided i want a hassy, and in those days it was 600 dollars, which was still alot of money . I decided i couldn't afford that price and kept putting it off until sometime in the late 70's i decided i really did want this camera. So i bought it, but then it was a lot more money, something in the 2400 range with a few extra's thrown in for what ever reason.
I must have shoot three rolls of film when i realized i didn't like this camera. I don't think square and it just didn't feel right (for me). So i packed it up in the orginal boxes and put it away, not really knowing what i wanted to do about getting rid of the camera.
Then in the mid 80's i ended up selling it for more than i paid, (always a good thing).
The point being, i never missed it and as good luck would have it, i didn't lose money.
My favorite 120 film camera, a Plaubel Makina. So, i still can have a large size negative along with a camera that i love to handle.
I would sugges you try to borrow one or go rent one for a long weekend and really get a feel for the camera and how it handles .
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Stay with the Pentax. Don't expect higher image quality from the Hasselblad. If you absolutely want to burn some money, add the 75mm f2.8 ASPH and the 300mm f4 ED to you setup. These latest Pentax 67 offerings are simply amazing. Or even better, add a Goetschmann 6x7 slide projector and be overwhelmed by the experience a 6x7 slide show offers.
A lot of the small petzvals are not marked. I think the ones I have are projection lenses. You might ask Jim Galli about these small lenses. He is an expert and often comes up with them for sale.
Although I've been a photographer for many years, I hesitated buying a Hassy for one reason or another. I have a Mamiya C330 (which I love) and didn't really feel the need for another 6x6. I ended up buying a Hassy 500/CM with an 80mm and a 250mm lens a year ago at a camera show and it has become my main shooter at this point. I can't say enough good things about the camera and the glass. If you're still on the fence about a Hassy, I can only say that it may (hopefully will) be a great addition to your camera collection.
Originally Posted by keithwms
Thats where I'm heading ...
Coming from a RX67 I'm still humming and hurring about a blad, then I got all Leica M4-P excited, now I'm thinking Mamiya 6 or maybe a Bessa 3 ...
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No one in this thread can make up your mind for you. I think you should take both cameras and try them at the same time in a variety of shooting situations. That will help you with the feel of the systems and their handling and ergonomics. Like someone said early in the thread these systems are not even close to being the same, I couldn't agree more and I have used both. I own a large Hasselblad system as my principal medium format rig. I use the older C lenses because they were the best for cash flow and business due to their excellent value. Every repair person I have ever dealt with tells me they are far better built as well. Now, having said that their ease of use (aperture/shutter coupling tab) is not as good as the CF's and others. That is my only complaint about my Hasselblad gear. I use a 500CM and 553ELX and I love them both. The standard body like a 500CM should be outfitted with an Accumatte screen, makes them much easier to use in low light or with longer lenses like the 350 or 500. The 553 bodies come with a Accumatte screen. Everything else in the system is perfect as is and I thoroughly recommend a Hasselblad system. If you buy it right you will always get your money out of it. One major point you may want to consider is one potentially very important one ....... you can always add a digital back at any time you may find you want it and switch between film and digital as simply as releasing and reattaching a back. That's one option that is hard to ignore. Just think, if you were to buy a 500 series body you can use just about every item in that product lineup all the way back to the 1950's. That is simply incredible. Not only that, but you can use technology backs well into the future. The Pentax hasn't a prayer in that world of compatibility. You can add any of several prisms to the Hasselblad for eye level shooting. I have a PME3 but I rarely use it. I find I prefer using the waistlevel with the flip up magnifier or the magnifying finder. It's a personal thing a photographer has to decide for themselves to fit their style of working. I think the Zeiss lenses are superior to the Pentax optics. Chromes and B/W negs that I used to shoot always were snappier with the exceptional Zeiss contrast. However, in my old college days I used a Pentax 6x7 for fashion work because the camera was fast in that shooting environment. A motorized Hasselblad will work well too but I found with fashion the Pentax was hard to beat. A huge problem with the Pentax in my book is the lack of interchangeable film backs. Some people may not like it's bulk and weight also. To me when you are shooting medium format, those interchangeable backs are essential. Another important thing to think about is the availability of system information and support on Hasselblad. There is a wealth of info available from many, many sources. Not to mention the factory support. The range of the Hasselblad system components and accessories all the way back to the 1950's is extraordinary. You need to decide on what you prefer but I have to tell ya, the Pentax system can't begin to compare although it is a very good camera and I like the 6x7 Pentax. Good luck with your decision.