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    Quote Originally Posted by Kino View Post
    Yeah, we know how important labels are to some insecure people, but some people are happy with less than perfect...
    The cameras Kiev produced were very insecure, indeed...
    Which had a knock-on effect, of course, making people using them - though happy they may be with that - also insecure: will it work... will it not? When will it grind to a halt? Should i have bought a rebuild one?
    That sort of stuff.

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    FWIW, my Arax-60 gets more use than most of the other MF cameras, RB67 included. Yes, it needs a regular CLA. So what?

    The Flekie 50 and Sonnar 180 I use it with are by far the best MF lenses I got in those ranges. Only the 127K/L is better. So much so that I got an adapter to use them with a 645-TL, where they also excel.

    Long live Gevorg's Arax gear, for as long as he can find a niche.
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    Kino,

    My choice at the time was Kowa 6 over the Kiev, hardly big name brand. The Kowa 40mm is one of the best lens I've ever used. I really would have liked to try the 19mm MF lens for the 6/66 series.

    I didn't realize the Flekie or Sonnar 180 were made by Kiev.


    Mike

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    I've always wanted one of those ARAX cameras for a long time. Not as an everyday user but just to add to the collection. But, with a $500 price tag, 5 weeks shipping, and known quality issues the Mamiya 645 pro was by far a better choice.If FEDKA had them for, say, $250 I'd buy one then.
    AT any rate I hate to see any film camera brand disappear (Bronica broke my heart). Like Bronica, I'm sure Kiev's will be around for many year to come spare parts be willing.
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    If you want one for a collection, find the original Salyut.
    Those reworked thingies, i.e. 'unoriginals', are not collectible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark View Post
    Need to tip a glass of vodka to the quality control department. Lord knows they drank enough while checking cameras
    LOL, that's very funny Mark, thanks for brightening my morning.
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    I had a Kiev 6X6 once. I might have been lucky because I never had a problem with her or the lenses. Sorry to hear the bad News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikebarger View Post
    Kino,



    I didn't realize the Flekie or Sonnar 180 were made by Kiev.


    Mike
    Their not, but they fit the Kiev cameras with the Pentacon mount.

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    I wanted to pick up a brand new Kiev....I have never owned a "new" camera that has always been mine and never anyone else's camera......
    Helping to save analog photography one exposure at a time

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHOTOTONE View Post
    Their not, but they fit the Kiev cameras with the Pentacon mount.
    Yup. I got the Arax so I could use it with those two. Little did I know then adapters would let me use the 645! And 35mm gear as well: the Sonnar 180 works particularly sweet mounted on bellows for "at distance" close-up imagery!

    Still: with the Arax I got full 6X6 square format.
    And that was an eye opener: had never used the format before, only 6X7.
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