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    Thanks for the report. I've been thinking about this camera for quite a while, but before making the investment, I want at least to be able to handle it and see if it would be a replacement for my Perkeo II, which is truly pocketable. I'm sure the image quality of the Bessa III will be much better, but when image quality comes first, I've got other cameras.
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    1030g is quite a bit less than the big Fujis, though, and the Mamiya 6/75 and 7/80 combinations too. Having put in a fair amount of neck and hand time with both a GW690II and a 6, I'm optimistic that it would feel relatively light to me.

    I'm also very encouraged to hear that the mechanical fit seems so precise. It would be nice to know how well it will hold up with use, but the cameras will probably all have been sold before enough of them have put on sufficient mileage for that to become clear.

    Thanks for sharing your impressions Sandy, will be interested to hear more as you have a chance to work with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oren Grad View Post

    Thanks for sharing your impressions Sandy, will be interested to hear more as you have a chance to work with it.
    I just exposed a resolution target with the Mamiya 7II with 80mm lens and the Bessa III, on the same roll of film, at f/4, f/5.6, f/8, f/11 and f/16 for both cameras. Will do the same tomorrow with a real life outdoor scene with lots of detail.

    This was the first resolution target I have exposed since I got my new eyes. Wow, it was so much easier to focus on the target with the rangefinder than before.

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    Sandy,

    How would you compare your potential application or use of the Voigtlander Bessa III to the Mamiya 7II?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kershaw View Post
    Sandy,

    How would you compare your potential application or use of the Voigtlander Bessa III to the Mamiya 7II?

    Tom
    Tom,

    I use the Mamiya 7II as a system camera, and travel with two bodies and five lenses. And a DSLR converted to IR. Compact but a fair amount of weight.

    My anticipated use of the Bessa III would be to throw it in a small bag with my Canon 50D converted to IR. Less weight, more compact, more freedom, but without of course the wide range of lenses of the Mamiya 7II outfit. Kind of force the discipline of a one lens camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanking View Post
    I just exposed a resolution target with the Mamiya 7II with 80mm lens and the Bessa III, on the same roll of film, at f/4, f/5.6, f/8, f/11 and f/16 for both cameras. Will do the same tomorrow with a real life outdoor scene with lots of detail.


    Sandy
    Developed the film and looked at the results with a microscope. Something of a draw IMO. The Mamiya 80mm f/4 is a tad better at the edges but the Voigtlander Heliar f/3.5 is a tad better at the center.

    I failed to note the distance from the lens to the target so these results are only good as comparative data. The results certainly speak well for the Heliar. No other MF lense that I have tested in the past has come close to the Mamiya.

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    I had a chance to try this camera and did a video of the photo shoot... you can see it at....
    http://www.youtube.com/user/thepictu.../0/JTdQccBp5mg

    Also have blogged on it at....
    http://thepicturedesk.blogspot.com/

    I think it's a great camera... I wish I had one for my travel in China earlier in the year.

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    Rob...just watched your video. What did it tell us other than you had the camera in your possession?

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    Interesting question David, normally I would agree with you, but as I at the moment, and for another week, have one of these cameras, I looked at the short video with different eyes.

    I was interested to hear the difference in the shutter noise for the Bessa III, compared to the other camera, did you note it's unreal quietness. Very quiet camera unless you wind the film on quickly, when the ratchet noise of the winder becomes noticeable.

    I also was interested in how good the metering was in aperture priority, seems reasonably good if the picture representations are accurate. I am using aperture priority tomorrow for a roll, then switching back to full manual for the other rolls. I'll see how it works for me.

    As to the sharpness of the negatives and prints that follow, very, very good.

    One aspect is the crispness of the negatives, something that I cannot describe in any other way. My wife has just come back from a trip overseas and saw a new print on the refrigerator. After a short look, she moved closer and mentioned the sharpness and clean look of the print. The print by the way is a pearl surface Ilford 8x10 RC print, the film was Tri-X.

    Having enlarged Mamiya 6 and 7 negatives for some friends, my humble opinion is that Mamiya lenses are pretty much amongst the best in the business and have been since the RB then later the RZ cameras were around. The Voigtländer Heliar lens on the camera I have, does appear to live up to the heritage of the name.

    Mick.

    Ps:- It was interesting to hear Rob talk, with the accent difference, I at first thought he introduced himself as Rob Screw

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    Yes, I thought the shutter sound was one of the most interesting things to be learned from the video. I know it sounds trivial, but it is surprisingly quiet.
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