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    Quote Originally Posted by P C Headland View Post
    Of course, with the 60, you lose the interchangeable backs. I've had good experiences dealing with Araxphoto, and would have no hesitation in recommending them.
    But then the bodies aren't terribly expensive and could act as a 'psuedo' back right? (i.e. two bodies, one lens, one finder)

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    Quote Originally Posted by f/1,4 View Post
    At today's prices, you should seriously consider the Hassy. The Zeiss glasses are superior. You might even wait and save some more money first. Mamya, Pentax and Bronica are not too bad, but no cigar. Today when everything is second hand you might as well go for the real thing.
    My Mamiya-6 optics are far better than my Hasselblad optics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RalphLambrecht View Post
    My Mamiya-6 optics are far better than my Hasselblad optics.
    That will sound like heresy to some, but it's my understanding that most of the Hasselblad lenses are older designs, while the lenses for the Mamiya 7 are currently the state of the art. I'm sure that the lenses for the Mamiya 6 aren't much different from the lenses for the Mamiya 7. But I'll keep on using my Koni-Omega; it's very rugged, and in my case the limit on my images is definitely the photographer, not the lenses.
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    I've got many film cameras from some of the name brand camera manufacturers. They are all good. My recommendation is to find what works for you. Things like the ergonomics, the features and benefits of each such as the different lenses offered, backs, light meters, the pool of available product as well as technicians who can perform service are important, at least to me.

    My two choices would be either a Mamiya or a Hasselblad system. Mamiya 6x6 TLR's are a pretty good system. And the Mamiya 6x4.5 is a pretty good system as well.

    Here is a very thorough site on Mamiya TLR's:

    http://www.btinternet.com/~g.a.patte...-contents.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by RalphLambrecht View Post
    My Mamiya-6 optics are far better than my Hasselblad optics.
    Are your Hasselblad lenses from the more modern ranges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chazzy View Post
    That will sound like heresy to some, but it's my understanding that most of the Hasselblad lenses are older designs, while the lenses for the Mamiya 7 are currently the state of the art. I'm sure that the lenses for the Mamiya 6 aren't much different from the lenses for the Mamiya 7. But I'll keep on using my Koni-Omega; it's very rugged, and in my case the limit on my images is definitely the photographer, not the lenses.
    I was very surprised myself when I tested the first Mamiya-6 lenses. I think the reason for this is not in the age of the lens design, but the difference between lens designs for rangefinders and SLRs. Rangefinder lenses are (or maybe were) easier to correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kershaw View Post
    Are your Hasselblad lenses from the more modern ranges?

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    I tested Hasselblad lenses from CF onwards, and they are all very good and about the same, peaking around 60 lp/mm with Tmax-100, developed in D76 1+1, but the Mamiya-6 lenses are clearly a step above with a maximum of 90 lp/mm. Admittedly, it needs 16x20-inch prints to appreciate the difference. It must be easier to correct rangefinder lenses than SLR lenses, especially wide-angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    That is becaue the SLR lenses have to be designed with retrofocus to allow for the mirror. That offset makes the design harder. Still the Hasselblad lenses are not shabby.

    Steve
    I agree fully. Hasselblad lenses are excellent, and as I said, you need to go to 16x20-inch enlargements to see the difference to the Mamiya lenses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RalphLambrecht View Post
    Tom

    I tested Hasselblad lenses from CF onwards, and they are all very good and about the same, peaking around 60 lp/mm with Tmax-100, developed in D76 1+1, but the Mamiya-6 lenses are clearly a step above with a maximum of 90 lp/mm. Admittedly, it needs 16x20-inch prints to appreciate the difference. It must be easier to correct rangefinder lenses than SLR lenses, especially wide-angle.
    Although I've not done much work with it, I have found the 45mm lens on the Bronica RF645 impressive in terms of both sharpness and resolution.

    On your developer choice, if I recall correctly, Kodak claims a 10% improvement for XTOL over D-76 in terms of speed, resolution, and sharpness, what would your comment be?

    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by RalphLambrecht View Post
    Tom

    I tested Hasselblad lenses from CF onwards, and they are all very good and about the same, peaking around 60 lp/mm with Tmax-100, developed in D76 1+1, but the Mamiya-6 lenses are clearly a step above with a maximum of 90 lp/mm. Admittedly, it needs 16x20-inch prints to appreciate the difference. It must be easier to correct rangefinder lenses than SLR lenses, especially wide-angle.
    The 75mm Heliar lens on the Bessa III 667 is at least as good as the 80mm Mamiya lens. If you are looking for maximum portability, can live with just one lens, and can stand the sticker price this is a camera to consider.

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