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I bought my Diana F+ for 100 bucks. You mean I could have bought a Perkeo II, which is nothing like it, for $50 and save me all this money? Damn. Wow, what an idiot I am.
You want to know what's stupid. People projecting their own expectations, requirements and cheapness to others. Is $100 too much? it is 10 rolls of 120 bought and processed. Wow, that'll break the bank. Thankfully, for an idiot, I can handle such extravagant expenses.
No offense, just a rant. 
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Who cares? Spending $100 on a film camera that is fun to use and can turn out nice, creative images (assuming one puts some effort into it), is ALL GOOD. I wish more people would be buying those and keep film alive while getting some new inspiration. If anything, I have more issues with some "photographers" dropping $18K on an M9 + 0.95 Noctilux and dish out absolute crap. Oh yeah, "great Bokeh!", "lovely DOF!" but absolute crap. But hey, as always, to each his own.
End of MY rant
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If it really bothers you, buy direct from Hong Kong on ebay and buy one without a built in flash. Should be much cheaper. Not sure what they use in those horrible onboard flashes in the holgas but they must be gold plated at the price I've seen.
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 Originally Posted by film_man
I bought my Diana F+ for 100 bucks. You mean I could have bought a Perkeo II, which is nothing like it, for $50 and save me all this money?
I got an old Tru-View (Diana clone) for $10. Sure it's a fun toy, but there's no reason for a little plastic box from China to cost more than that.
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I think people are hungering for organic looking images in the age of digital images. Some folks are left feeling cold being fed a constant diet of super retouched images and HDR pictures. Gen Y kids are rediscovering the magic of vinyl records. They love the warmth along with the hiss and pops of old records. It's great that some people are shelling out $100 for a plastic twin lens reflex camera. Everybody needs a hobby. I'm sure it will spur on film sales. Long live film.
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Originally Posted by Akki14
If it really bothers you, buy direct from Hong Kong on ebay and buy one without a built in flash. Should be much cheaper. Not sure what they use in those horrible onboard flashes in the holgas but they must be gold plated at the price I've seen.
I did that - no flash, and I bought one with a glass instead of plastic lens. Once you get the back taped on properly so it won't leak light it provides disappointingly sharp images. Not quite as sharp as a 1950s Kodak Brownie, but not at all distorted enough to be true "Holga" images.
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I perefer my Savoy to either Holga or Diana. Not only is the Savoy a 'space age' camera, it is also USA made
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B&H has a Holga starter kit for about $28.
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Originally Posted by film_man
I bought my Diana F+ for 100 bucks. You mean I could have bought a Perkeo II, which is nothing like it, for $50 and save me all this money? Damn. Wow, what an idiot I am.
You want to know what's stupid. People projecting their own expectations, requirements and cheapness to others. Is $100 too much? it is 10 rolls of 120 bought and processed. Wow, that'll break the bank. Thankfully, for an idiot, I can handle such extravagant expenses.
No offense, just a rant.
I think the point is you could have got one for $50 with 5 rolls of film and that's still expensive considering the materials and build quality...
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Lomo-Diana-F-...t=Film_Cameras
Anyway, they do sometimes make interesting pictures regardless of what they cost.
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My view is pretty much the same as others here: if it means that more film is being sold -- especially medium format -- then I'm all for it, and hope the Holga craze lasts a long time.
I also hope Holga users get into 120 slide film in a big way 
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