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    ETRS Meter question, AE II??

    I just traded some stuff for another camera kit. A very nice Bronica ETRS with 3 lenses, extention tubes, Teleconverter, righthanded grip, 4 back on and on. It seems like a nice camera but....
    The AE II prism meter is all over the place? it shows over exposure most of the time. I changed the battery in the camera and the green battery check light works.

    Any Ideas or are these meters just screwy? I also have a Mamiya M645 1000s and a prism/meter and it is dead on.

    I hope that maybe there is some little thing I missed when I read through the manual.
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    if it is a lithium battery it may not work -- have you checked the voltage with a meter.
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    No I did not check the battery with a meter. I opened the battery from a new pack but I guess it could still be old.
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    I've never found them to be very accurate -- its the perfect time to get a nice handheld meter :-) I just have a regular prism on mine. Given the age of most of the ETRS gear, the meter could be faulty. You can always get another one dirt cheap.

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    I do have a good hand held that I use with my RB67. But the prism meter in my Mamiya M645 is very good. I was hoping for the same with the Bronica. It makes life much easier.
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    The AE III I had on my Bronica ETRSi was fantastically accurate when tested against my Gossen LP so...not sure what to recommend here as I've never used the AE II but I would be very surprised if it wasn't any good. Perhaps the film speed dial is messed up and permanently set on a much higher speed? If there's nothing wrong with the battery then I would have to assume that it would be a problem with that particular meter. I had an SQAi as well and have never had any problems with the metered prism on that one. I've always found Bronica stuff to work just as it should. I'm sorry it's not working out for you. If all else fails you could try your hand at opening it up - I did this once with a Mamiya prism and they're not overly complicated (though I don't know how the AE II is sealed), that way you could check to see if the film speed dial is functioning. I would only bother doing that once you've exhausted all other options of course.
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    I have a Mamiya RB67 and an M645. The M645 has a prism meter that is very accurate. The Bronica gear is new to me and they whole kit looks almost new. The best thing would be for me to find out that the battery is the problem. Even if it is this particular AE II prism I can replace it. I hope that I do not find that the next AE II or III is just the same. The Bronica build quality seems to be very good and it has some nice features that my M645 does not have like interchangeable backs and the speed grip is nice too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringdeath View Post
    I've never found them to be very accurate -- its the perfect time to get a nice handheld meter :-) I just have a regular prism on mine. Given the age of most of the ETRS gear, the meter could be faulty. You can always get another one dirt cheap.
    How many have you tried? did they all act in a similar manner?
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    I have an ETRS with an AE prism(not II or III) and for some reason it does get stuck at a particular reading on mine. When it does I take the prism off the body and install it back since maybe the contacts aren't seated right. Also of course make sure the contacts are clean. However like you I'm starting to question if the meter on mine is still any good and might to have just use a hand meter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stradibarrius View Post
    How many have you tried? did they all act in a similar manner?
    I've owned two. Could be because of their age, and I've never found any (including my regular prism) to sit very tight on the bodies, so it could have been a contact issue. Anyhow, I generally always use a handheld with MF anyways so I didn't bother trying out another one or an AEIII.

    So my statement "in general" may have been based on a limited sample

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