Or Hasselblad SWC, if you can get along with just one (wide) lens. Very neat. But pricier than the Mamiya.
If I were really looking to get in to large format, (which, if that's where you're thinking of going eventually, I'd just go straight there and skip the medium format) I'd get a nice inexpensive 4x5 field camera that can take a bag bellows, like a Shen Hao HZX-AT II (why the alphabet soup I have no idea, but it's a great little camera) and a 90 mm like a Rodenstock Grandagon 90mm f6.8. The f6.8 is a good compromise between the compactness of the f8 lenses and the cost and weight of the f5.6 lenses.
If you're still looking at medium format because you really want it, go take a look at the Mamiya website to see the range of focal lengths available for the RB/RZ line and the 7. As mentioned previously, the RB/RZ goes down to 50mm, and then has a fisheye 37mm. The 7 has a rectilinear 43, 50, and 65 as well as the normal 80. The KEH website is as good a place as any to see a list of what's available for the Pentax, although at any given moment in time they may not have any of the extreme lenses at the superwide and/or long telephoto ends of the spectrum as they were always specialty lenses and are rare.
He said he was originally going to go with the Mamiya 7 until his "friend" suggested he wasn't smart enough to figure out how to frame a landscape with a rangefinder.
Originally Posted by TheFlyingCamera
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Get a Mamiya with the lenses you want. They are great and dirt cheap.
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I defer to those more knowledgeable, but...
I love the Pentax 6x7, but felt the ground move on occasion when the mirror slapped back down. MLU (mirror lock-up) is a must if you choose this system.
I've owned and gotten some great images with the RB67, and it never let me down, but (and this is big) it hurts your shoulders after a while trekking over hill and dale, especially if you carry a couple lenses.
I actually went to a Super Graphic system, with grafmatic backs, which was actually lighter than the RB67 with a couple lenses and backs; the lower sharpness of the LF lenses was made up for by the bigger neg; so that was a good alternative for me.
Frankly, you should also consider Hasselblad (way cheaper than years ago), Bronica with PS series lenses, perhaps a Rollei SL66/SLX, or even an Arax/Hartblei (Hassy copies) system. Most of those systems have price stabilized, so buying one and re-selling later should not hurt your pocket more than the cost of shipping... and of course, rental is a great idea.
Any way you slice it though, the big difference will be neg size, not overall sharpness...compared to 35mm.
If you ever do consider rangefinders, you really can't go wrong with the Mamiya 6/7.
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Reason: forgot to add the Rollei option, and links
Pumalite, which Mamiya are you referring to?
Certainly the lenses for the 7II are not dirt cheap
Originally Posted by Slixtiesix
Warning!! Handling a Hasselblad can be harmful to your financial well being!
Nothing beats a great piece of glass!
I leave the digital work for the urologists and proctologists.
Yes, the Superwide is a dream camera. It's also ungodly expensive even now. For the price of a Mamiya 7 and two or three lenses, you'll end up with a Superwide.
I think you're going to find that none of the 6X7 cameras will give 100% view in the finder. That's SLR or rangefinder.
The lenses for the Mamiya 7 are usually considered excellent. Because the lenses are not retrofocus they can be simpler to design
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