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    #3 above is the bridge the apes came over in the second Planet of the Apes movie

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    Mamiya 43 is wider and just as sharp if not sharper than SWC

    43mm is on 6x7, which is wider than 38mm on 6x6.

    The 43 is perfectly rectilinear, and the sharpest wide-angle lens made, basically. Better than the SWC from what I have read and seen. Empirical testing (by others, I don't have a SWC) bears this out.

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    I would like to see some comparisons of the two lenses.

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    here's a start

    http://www.hevanet.com/cperez/MF_testing.html

    There's some comparisons here. the 43mm mamiya is higher res than the 50mm that he tested (which is no slouch, of course).

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    Ed- I don't know about sharpness - that's actually never been a huge concern of mine as I've never enlarged anything to the point that resolving power intrudes into image quality. What I specifically mentioned was optical correction for distortion. I probably shouldn't have even mentioned it because I see it's started another "my gear is better/sharper/more rectilinear than yours". In reality, nobody sells photographs of lens resolution test charts, so the only people who are actually impressed by this data are other photographers, which really means this is just another penis-comparison contest.

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    43 is well corrected

    I haven't put it to extreme tests but all the architectural shots I've done with the 43mm and 50mm and other Mamiya 7 lenses show that they are quite well corrected for geometry. Which would only make sense, as the 43, 50, and 65 are biogon-derived (improved?) designs, known for exceptionally good correction. They are what makes the 7 system so good, IMHO. A comparison vs. Biogon SWC would be interesting, as far as geometry goes. I suspect the Mamiya would more than hold it's own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingCamera View Post
    ... I probably shouldn't have even mentioned it because I see it's started another "my gear is better/sharper/more rectilinear than yours". In reality, nobody sells photographs of lens resolution test charts, so the only people who are actually impressed by this data are other photographers, which really means this is just another penis-comparison contest.
    Remember, it's not how rectilinear your gear is, it's how you use it!

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    I'd go for a 645 SLR with exchangeable magazines (such as Mamiya M645 Pro), or a Mamiya C series twin lens reflex as a first medium format camera to be used primarily for landscapes in the under-$500 range. C220s are probably the best value in the C system. Lenses are cheap and excellent.

    If you have plenty of money to invest, just go for a Hassy off the bat, and be sure to get a few extra backs. They come in handy in landscape shooting, IME.

    I like the RB or RZ too. It is what I use most for landscapes. Before I got it, I mostly used 4x5 and a Mamiya Press 6x9. I switched to the RZ because I view quick TTL composing as the most important feature for landscapes (and most other shooting, for that matter).

    I like the P67 for hand held stuff, because it is pretty comfortable to use. It's a good medium format camera for those who are in love with the feel of 35mm SLRs. I don't like it much on a tripod (especially in studio) or with flash. I prefer a more "component-oriented" system for shots when I can take my time a bit. Maybe this is just because I used to always use 4x5 for this sort of stuff before entering into the medium format world.

    IMHO, you won't find a lens bad enough to warrant a second look in any quality medium format system. Hassy, Bronica, Mamiya, Pentax, etc. They're all better lenses than most people are photographers, so I don't feel that they are very often the limiting factor in making a good picture.
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