Switch to English Language Passer en langue française Omschakelen naar Nederlandse Taal Wechseln Sie zu deutschen Sprache Passa alla lingua italiana
Members: 69,999   Posts: 1,524,320   Online: 801
      
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 27
  1. #1

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    London
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    308

    250mm for Hasselblad

    Hello,

    I'm looking to get a 250/5.6 for my V system, mainly for landscape use. I've found a few of these but not too sure which one to go for. All with clean glass:

    250C for £150-250
    250CT* for £200 (not so sure about glass condition on this, need to check)
    250CF for £500

    Now I don't particularly like the handling of C lenses with their fiddly constant aperture coupling and heavy focusing but since I'll be using the lens not that often on a tripod I reckon it won't matter that much. Would you say it is worth getting perhaps an older lens and getting it serviced (costs about £100-150 to service) so I have a "new" one vs getting a CF that might need servicing in a few months?

    Also, is there an obvious image quality difference between the C, CT* and CF versions? Because if a CF is visibly better than a C/CT* I'll get one of these.

    Thanks.
    Hasselblad, Mamiya RB, Nikonos, Canon EOS

  2. #2
    sandermarijn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Leiden, Netherlands
    Shooter
    35mm
    Posts
    771
    Images
    11
    Quote Originally Posted by film_man View Post
    Now I don't particularly like the handling of C lenses with their fiddly constant aperture coupling and heavy focusing but since I'll be using the lens not that often on a tripod I reckon it won't matter that much.
    Assuming a similar state of abuse, the CT*'s and CF's are equally stiff. IOW, the difference between the one sample to the next will exceed any difference between the two types. My experience at least.

    I also have a CB lens. Those, and the crazy-expensive CFi's, are smooth-focusing.

    Quote Originally Posted by film_man View Post
    Would you say it is worth getting perhaps an older lens and getting it serviced (costs about £100-150 to service) so I have a "new" one vs getting a CF that might need servicing in a few months?
    Unless you hate the EV-coupling, go for a serviced, cheaper CT*. The CF will add nothing but harder edged aperture blades (looks ugly in the OOF highlights, IMO). The CF will of course add the F setting, but I don't think many people use that.

    Quote Originally Posted by film_man View Post
    Also, is there an obvious image quality difference between the C, CT* and CF versions? Because if a CF is visibly better than a C/CT* I'll get one of these.
    I see no difference, speaking for CT* vs. CF. I don't know about C lenses.

  3. #3
    sandermarijn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Leiden, Netherlands
    Shooter
    35mm
    Posts
    771
    Images
    11
    Forgot to say: the C(T*) lenses have built-in self-timers, the CF's (and later) don't. Yet another point of consideration

  4. #4
    jbbooks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    173
    I would not purchase a C. One of the things that appeals most about the Zeiss T* lenses is the consistency they have, from one lens to another, of their excellent contrast and color.

    I like the CT*, because I am used to their aperture and speed coupling and I do not like the CF the way it was changed in that regard. More importantly, I do not like switching from one to another. If, like you, I preferred the CF style lens; I would stay with that, especially if you are going to buy one in less than good condition and have it serviced.

    In regard to condition, the reason you buy a lens is for the glass and that should be flawless. If it is not, the price should be deeply discounted. A lens with flawed glass may produce a usable image, but it will not bring a normal price if sold to a knowing buyer. If you buy a lens with glass issues and the price is not reduced, compared to a similar lens with mint glass, you should expect to have to deeply discount the lens if you, later, decide to sell it. Make your seller take that loss, in full. Do not allow him to pass any of it on to you.

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Netherlands
    Shooter
    Medium Format
    Posts
    5,686
    All depends on condition.
    If the C is in good shape, and you do not mind the C-controls, why not? Keep in mind that a newer lens may actually be in worse condition.

    Coatings do not matter that much, the difference between the T coating on the older C lens and the T* coating is minimal. Usings a good lens hood does more, and is needed using T* lenses as well as uncoated lenses.

    The optical design of the f/5.6 250 mm Sonnar hasn't changed since it first became available for the 1000-series Hasselblads in the mid 1950s. It did not need to, since it was very good to begin with.
    And they do indeed all perform equally well. Indistinguishable.

  6. #6
    jelke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    192
    Quote Originally Posted by film_man View Post
    Hello,

    I'm looking to get a 250/5.6 for my V system, mainly for landscape use. I've found a few of these but not too sure which one to go for. All with clean glass:

    250C for £150-250
    250CT* for £200 (not so sure about glass condition on this, need to check)
    250CF for £500

    Now I don't particularly like the handling of C lenses with their fiddly constant aperture coupling and heavy focusing but since I'll be using the lens not that often on a tripod I reckon it won't matter that much. Would you say it is worth getting perhaps an older lens and getting it serviced (costs about £100-150 to service) so I have a "new" one vs getting a CF that might need servicing in a few months?

    Also, is there an obvious image quality difference between the C, CT* and CF versions? Because if a CF is visibly better than a C/CT* I'll get one of these.

    Thanks.
    Ansel Adams used an early 250 to shoot his Moon over half dome picture.
    http://www.hasselbladinfo.com/forum/...ead.php?t=5128

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    London
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    308
    Thanks for all the suggestions. I generally do not like the coupled C/CT* controls but since I'll be using the 250 pretty much on a tripod I can live with that! On the other hand I couldn't live with them for something general purpose like my 80 (or a 150 that I will also be buying after the 250 which I'm almost sure will be a CFi one).

    I think I'll go for the C/CT* lens, they are less than half the price of the cheapest CF I can find and thus I can afford a service and a hood and still have spare money for an A24 that I'm also eyeing. Plus I found a couple of silver 250C that just look cool.
    Hasselblad, Mamiya RB, Nikonos, Canon EOS

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    London
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    308
    By the way, which hood does the 250C and CT* take?
    Hasselblad, Mamiya RB, Nikonos, Canon EOS

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Netherlands
    Shooter
    Medium Format
    Posts
    5,686
    A bayonet 50 hood, initially called "150", later "100-250"

  10. #10

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    London
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    308
    Thanks QG.
    Hasselblad, Mamiya RB, Nikonos, Canon EOS

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast


 

APUG PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Contact Us  |  Support Us!  |  Advertise  |  Site Terms  |  Archive  —   Search  |  Mobile Device Access  |  RSS  |  Facebook  |  Linkedin