I have a Voightlander Bessa 66, form 1938, and it is smaller than most 35mm cameras, even 35mm folders, yet takes 6x6 negatives,Richard
if you can find a graflex or other brand roll film back
you can make a hyperfocal superwide angle camera
that is barely bigger than your roll back ..
( like a p/s camera but better ) ...
Another vote for Nettars. Some models of the Ikonta (not 'Super') are as light (er, stripped down) as the Nettar but come with Tessar lenses -- however, the standard 3-element Novar lens on the Nettar is surprisingly good.
I dunno, my Isolette folds up and slips in my back pocket, and opens at the touch of a button. It doesn't take but a couple of seconds to set aperture and shutter speed aim and shoot. If you have a good working feel for exposure you can even do away with a light meter.
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The prewar 120 folders are indeed most pocketable, they open "click" and close "clack", but then you have to manually transport the film, set the aperture, speed and distance, and cock the shutter before shooting. Does it take "hours" ? For me, I like them, and have always one in the inside pocket of my ski-suit (preferably, either a 6x9 Super Ikonta or a 645 Rodenstock "citonette").
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I was on a similar quest until recently, with the added demand that the lens has to be faster than f3.5. I finally got, and am very pleased with, a Solida III with an uncoupled rangefinder, and an 80/2.9 Schneider lens: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rawhead/5278831077/
It literally fits in my jacket's inner pocket, and pretty much goes with me everywhere :-)
IMO folders are not that bad to open and close, at least no more complicated than a ready case is to open and close. My other 120 camera is a Pentax 6X7 and I will tell you that given the choice I would rather unfold a pocket camera than lug the 6X7 around, the pocket-ability and light weight far outweigh the picture quality sacrifice.
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Get bigger pockets...then a Hasselblad.
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My 1935 Certo Dolly SuperSport with a Zeiss lens is an example of a small folder. It has a coupled range finder and can shoot 6x6 or 645.
Originally Posted by Jeff Bannow
Warning!! Handling a Hasselblad can be harmful to your financial well being!
Nothing beats a great piece of glass!
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Sounds like you could use one of the Fuji GA645 cameras. They are autofocus, rigid (non folding) and compact. Expect to pay between $400 to $525 for a GA645 wide angle with 60mm lens, auto focus & exposure. Excellent optics and quick. You might even consider the GA645zi, I believe that's the one with a zoom, auto focus & exposure in the same price range. I have the Fuji folder and a Nettar myself which meet my needs for size & portability. Good luck on your quest for the perfect camera!
Originally Posted by maarten m