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    Mamiya TLR Lenses

    Are the lenses for Mamiya TLRs interchangeable across the body models?
    ie. will a set that fits a C220 fit a C330 and a C33, etc?

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    They should be, yes. However, my early model 18cm lens does not fit my C33, while it does fit my C220. It is strange, because it is an early lens, and the C33 is an older camera than the C220.
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    The only incompatibilities that you might encounter (as far as I'm aware) concern the functions on the bodies (C3, C33 and C330) that automatically cock the shutters on the lenses when the film is wound. 2F/2F's example is most likely one of those, because the C220 does not include this feature. Have you seen Graham Patterson's excellent resource on all things Mamiya TLR?: http://www.btinternet.com/~g.a.patte...-contents.html
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    Have not seen that resource. Looks to be the Mamiya TLR Fount of Knowledge.
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    Or http://www.gapatterson.com/grahamp
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    I've had some body/lens combinations where the body would not properly cock the lens. I had to put a very short piece of aquarium tubing on the end of the cocking mechanism. That body would work with some lenses but not others. Could have been an adjustment issue.
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    The arc needed to cock the shutter is quite precise. If the taking lens/shutter is not positioned correctly, or there is wear on the camera arm, the cocking arm does not latch. This is possibly due to a little slack in the mounting that allowed repeated cocking to rotate the assembly. If all lenses have the same problem, sleeving the cocking arm is a good choice.

    This is one of the reasons certain early 180mm lenses have trouble on auto-cocking bodies - the shutter cocking stroke is different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahamp View Post
    This is one of the reasons certain early 180mm lenses have trouble on auto-cocking bodies - the shutter cocking stroke is different.
    In the case of my 18cm lens on my C33, that is not the problem. The lens simply won't mount, as the retaining ring at the rear of the taking lens is too large to fit the hole on the body.
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    Ias that the origianl retaining ring? Maybe it's been changed? Can be changed to a smaller one? See if the threads are the same as your other lenses?
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    I'm not sure if the retaining rings are original. They seem like it, though, and I used to have another 18cm lens that acted the same way. It would not fit my C33, but it fit a C220 fine.

    What/when was the first model that had auto shutter cocking? Was this feature there on the C3, or did it start with the C33 (or maybe even the plain Mamiyaflex)? And what was the first year that the 18cm lens came out? What I am thinking is that perhaps my lens is very early, maybe made when auto shutter cocking was not yet available on any model. Since the auto shutter cocking mechanism makes the mounting hole in the body smaller, perhaps Mamiya started using smaller retaining rings when the first self-cocking model was introduced. If this is the case, then knowing whether or not this can be indicated by the use of 180mm as opposed to 18cm would also be a good thing to know. It would also be good to know if this is the case with any other early lenses.
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