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    Cams are specific to the lens. Horseman did this to try to match the precision and accuracy of Linhoff. At some point they stopped making cams and lenses together to match and started making bulk cams to fit their lens production but I still always try to find an original lens/cam set if I can.
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    The KEH lens listing shows a wrinkle finish board from the VHR era. The VHR came originally with 3 cams. 75, 105, and 180. Two were stored in the body of the camera. Because of this, the 75 and 180 lenses did not come with cams. The cams were available individually if you lost one of them (#27818, #27819 and #27812). They did list different product numbers for the 3.5 and 4.5 105 cams, but as far as I can tell the two are identical in shape and interchangeable.

    If you are shooting wide open you may prefer the multicoated lenses over the older silver-bodies lenses also.

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    The KEH lens listing shows a wrinkle finish board from the VHR era. The VHR came originally with 3 cams. 75, 105, and 180. Two were stored in the body of the camera. Because of this, the 75 and 180 lenses did not come with cams. The cams were available individually if you lost one of them (#27818, #27819 and #27812). They did list different product numbers for the 3.5 and 4.5 105 cams, but as far as I can tell the two are identical in shape and interchangeable.

    If you are shooting wide open you may prefer the multicoated lenses over the older silver-bodies lenses also.
    Thanks! This is why I love this forum. People share so much information its unbelievable! Thanks again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    David, my lens diary is up on the French LF board. You may enjoy reading it. Currently in three pieces, http://www.galerie-photo.com/1-lens-6x9-dan-fromm.html , http://www.galerie-photo.com/2-lens-6x9-dan-fromm.html , http://www.galerie-photo.com/3-lens-6x9-dan-fromm.html . Sooner or later in one large piece.
    This is quite an impressive dissertation on lenses that work on a 2x3 Speed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb View Post
    This is quite an impressive dissertation on lenses that work on a 2x3 Speed!
    Thank you, David, for the kind words.

    My shorter lenses can't be used on a 2x3 Speed but work on a 2x3 Crown or Century. One really needs two 2x3 Graphics, a Crown/Century for short lenses and a Speed for longer lenses and lenses in barrel.

    I don't think I made the point that some of the shortish lenses that work on the Speed are more comfortable on it than on a Crown/Century. They make infinity with the front standard on the Crown/Century's hinge.

    Francesco, a decent f/5.6 plasmat type normal lens for 2x3 shoots at least as well as my fast normal lenses in barrel from f/5.6 down. When I play selective focus games at near distances -- inside 10' -- I usually end up shooting around f/8. There's a hint.

    Also, there are many fastish (f/4.5, f/3.5) tessar types with focal lengths around 4". I used a 101/4.5 Ektar for years.

    I think you should stop fantasizing and asking questions and start trying lenses out. The first thing to do is find out how well your Horseman's RF works near its close focusing limit.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragomeni View Post
    Thanks! This is why I love this forum. People share so much information its unbelievable! Thanks again!
    I also wanted to point out a good Horseman reference. This 1980s catalog has a lot of good info, even though it is newer than your 960. Its nice to see someone else that likes these cameras, I think they are fantastic. http://www.cameraeccentric.com/html/...orseman_2.html

    I got another new appreciation of my VHR when I was led down the path of a medium format shift-tilt lens on an extensive ebay search one day. I came to my senses realizing that the most expensive medium format tilt-shift lens barely does what the Horseman can do.

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    There was also a 105mm f/3.5 Nikkor-M (same family as the 8/200, 9/300, and 9/450). It was discontinued quite a while ago, long before Nikon stopped making LF lenses. I've only ever seen a couple on eBay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ic-racer View Post
    I also wanted to point out a good Horseman reference. This 1980s catalog has a lot of good info, even though it is newer than your 960. Its nice to see someone else that likes these cameras, I think they are fantastic. http://www.cameraeccentric.com/html/...orseman_2.html

    I got another new appreciation of my VHR when I was led down the path of a medium format shift-tilt lens on an extensive ebay search one day. I came to my senses realizing that the most expensive medium format tilt-shift lens barely does what the Horseman can do.
    It's true. T/S lenses are just an attempt to do a bit of what a view camera can do so easily. They usually cost a bunch more too, outside of the lens babies.

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