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    For a 2 or 3 lens kit, the Mamiya is definitely easier to pack.

    I have both a C330 and C220 body. The C330 is faster to operate, while the C220 is lighter and slightly smaller.

    I note that you are thinking of 50mm and 80mm lenses. The widest Mamiya C lens is 55mm, and at f/4.5 it isn't particularly fast.

    My preferred travel kit with the Mamiya TLRs is a two lens kit - 65mm and 135 mm.
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    Mamiya TLR kit will be much less expensive, if that's a criterion for you.

    I have a 55-105-135-180 C330 kit, and my problem was to find a bag for it. In a way, since Hassy lenses are larger, they're more similar to 35mm/DLSR-size zoom lenses. In contrast, the Mamiya lenses being of a much different format required me to do some creative work with the padding of my backpack.

    Look at your available backpack options. Being light is not the only value of a package: being tight is another.
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    I find both of these systems relatively easy to carry. The Hasselblad seems more streamlined, due to it's shape. However, the Mamiya C system is not difficult to carry.

    The real difference is that one is a TLR and one is an SLR with exchangeable magazines. The SLR with backs will be more versatile when traveling. Say you want to take a picture in color and black and white, or on any other two different films, or give different frames different developments. The Hassy is the camera, IMO.

    This being said, I have done quite a lot of traveling and hiking with my C series cameras.
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    The Hassy film magazines can be useful, but they come with a price. The complex mechanisms of the magazines are more prone to problems--generally frame spacing issues. I've had a brand new back develop spacing issues for no discernible reason. The film path of the Hassy magazines also puts a bend in the film if it sits in the magazine. The Mamiyas have a nice straight film path. I'm sure the Hassy magazines were indispensable for pro's on assignment, but they seem a little less useful for art photography use.

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    I own a Mamiya C-33 (which I am trying to sell right now) and have very briefly handled a Hassy 500C. In terms of portability, I would definitely go with the Hassy because the Mamiya is huge and its awkward shape does not help (the main problem being the protruding focusing wheels). They are both great cameras with their respective pros and cons, but the Hassy wins the portability battle IMO.

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    Having used both a russian hassie clone (Similar in size and weight), an SL66 and a C220...

    C220
    - Advantages
    Mirror slap
    Will take a battering. they were ugly when they came out the factory, most are more ugly now. You bash a hasselblad and you feel bad, you bash a mamiya and "that's what it was built for"
    Is fairly easy to repair
    Bellows focus, allows you to get closer
    - Disadvantages
    Lens quality, IMHO, isn't up to that of the Zeiss lenses. That said they're a lot cheaper
    This can be mitigated a little with a hood, but these make the mamiya system more bulky
    Parallax. I find I have a lower hit rate than on an SLR, as I can see exactly where things are
    Ability to change backs is handy

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    I've been using a C33 with 2 lens for street & landscape for the past 2 years. Great results, fun to use. Just got a user 500c today and will be using that too. Some observations: The hasselblad is a lot smaller than I thought and seems a bit lighter than my C33. Much brighter viewing screen, seems faster handling. I've been using a lot of Mamiya glass recently (RB, 645 & C33) and have been pretty happy. Curious as to how the 80 2.8 Planar compares. I'll post some frames in the next few days.

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    I know you mentioned the WLF, but if you're traveling a lot you might consider the Mamiya 6. Stunning lenses and super light/portable.

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    I've used both systems and settled on the Blad. Especially for traveling, which I did a lot of with my Blad system. If weight was going to be an issue I used the wlf rather than my 45 degree metered head. For travel I packed a 50mm, 80mm and 150mm plus 3 backs and a 2X converter for the Blad.

    I found that the C330 was just to clunky and prone to this or that going wonky for my style of shooting.
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    Since you've found almost as many opinions on this matter as there are posters, and no clear consensus as to the relative advantages of size and weight, why not just choose the rig that you find easier to use? After all the whole purpose of transporting it anywhere is to take pictures with it when you get there.
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