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    which is more portable? 500cm vs c330

    Ive been wrestling with this question for the longest time. In the perfect world i wouldnt have to choose and get both. With a little luck ill stir a hornets nest with a healthy discussion.

    I also welcome other suggestions. things im looking for with my camera, 50mm and 80mm focal lengths, waist level viewfinders and square 6x6 format.

    In your opinion, which is easier to carry around? With film and lenses? It will be used mostly for travel when my 4x5 is too big.

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    A C330 is't much smaller than a folding 4x5.
    IMO a Hasselblad with the two lenses you mention would be easier to carry around than a c330.

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    Steve, I wanted you to know that your message with your signature put a huge smile on my face. Back to the issue; your bias is obvious, but both of you appear to be correct.

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    I've had both (Hassy currently) and a C220 kit. The mamiya kit is definitely easier because the second lens weighs almost nothing and takes little space. If you want to cut the weight, though, definitely consider the C220 instead of the C220.

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    I owned a 500cm with a silver 50/4 and I found that combo heavier, noisier, and more cumbersome to carry around then my current C220 and 80/2.8.

    I tried out a C330 with an 80/2.8, shot a roll through it, before finding my C220 and the extra weight made it also cumbersome to carry around. I much prefer my C220. The C220 is not much different in exterior dimensions to the C330, but I guess because of the extra weight it made it feel larger when in reality it is only slightly smaller in each dimension.

    I ended up returning the 500cm after about a week, purchased from KEH, as I liked the C220 more. The 500cm I received also had light leak issues. If you purchase a 500cm buy it from a photographer that has used it regularly or from a place with a return policy. However, I hear it is a simple enough fix if you do get a bad one.
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    TLR's , including the one you mentioned, are smaller then Hasselblads, and are easier to find space for in the travel bag in my opinion as they are quite compact shapes with not much producing. They are not MUCH smaller then the Hassy though. if you dont care between the two, and dont need the features of the SLR then in my opinion the TLR is much more hand holdable (no mirror slap) and as quiet as can be for a camera, which makes it a great travel camera.

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    ever consider a Rolleiflex? no interchangeable lens but great photos, small, quiet
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    For street shooting its my C-220 over my C-330. I packed Kowa Super 66's for a long time, and The Hassy isn't any treat for me. I much prefer TLR's to SLR medium formats. They are immensly quieter and I like not loosing the view when the shutter trips, making for a faster second shot..
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    I don't think there's much difference in size. Neither camera is lightweight.
    It will come down to how you like the handling of the device.
    The Hasselblad is a much more elegant design with no sharp corners. The focus uses a helical and the camera hangs lens down when carried on a strap.
    A majority of the weight is in the lens/shutter bits.

    The Mamiya TLR's have a more crude,industrial look to them. Flat planes and sharp corners with a rack and pinion focus. It hangs lens forward when on a strap. I think Mamiya has fewer operating idiosyncrasies than the Hasselblad.
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    I've used the Hasselblad V system for a long time and recently got into the Mamiya TLR system. Both are great systems with high quality mechanicals, good optics, and extensive accessories. If you're carrying around a camera body and a bunch of lenses, the Mamiya system will be smaller and lighter. For the camera and 1-2 lenses, the differences in weight and bulk are marginal, with the Hasselblad lenses taking more space.

    I've been delighted with the Mamiya TLRs and currently have both the C33 and C330 cameras. The C33 is heavier, but beautifully made camera with no plastic parts--I think it's my favorite of the line because of the design, solid build, and auto shutter cocking (absent on the lighter C2xx cameras). However, they're all nice cameras--and the lenses are available at a fraction of the price of the Hasselblad glass. The Hasselblad Zeiss lenses are better performers in absolute terms--especially wide-open and to the far corners of the frame. In practice, the Mamiya lenses are excellent--especially if you stop down a bit. You also gain 1-2 stops by the ability to shoot the TLR more easily at lower shutter speeds.

    Try a Mamiya TLR first and see if it meets your needs. If you're happy, you'll have saved a lot of money.
    Last edited by Barry S; 06-05-2011 at 05:15 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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