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    Im in the Netherlands. I know I won't be using the camera as a tourist type in city camera (have my dSLR for that ) I'm quite a big guy, and I'm quite okay handling a pro SLR and a 300mm mounted on it. Unfortunately I have not been able to find either a Bronica SQ or RB/RZ67 locally in a shop where I can try them out.

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    Nobody said it yet... but even though they are expensive the Hasselblad 500 series with a 80 or 60mm caries so nice on the shoulder. I swear it feels no heavier than a Nikon F.

    The Hasselblad pivots lens down when carried with the strap, and has smooth edges that don't poke you... this is my main point.
    I can walk around with the Blad on my shoulder or neck all day and not be bothered.

    I just chose it as my walkabout camera on vacation this summer once again... although the Zeiss Nettar folder is real neat and easy to pocket in baggy shorts.... the viewfinder on those old folders leaves a lot to the imagination.

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    Steve... And those plastic cameras don't take kindly to being knocked against a door jamb, etc when carried.
    Most people would cringe about me tossing my 500 in the back-seat of the car or even the trunk (boot).
    First 3 years I had it, it lived in a hard case... but after a couple trips through a steel mill and photographing agriculture I realized it is sort of a Mack truck of cameras.

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    I have certainly looked at the Hasselblad 500c/m, there's a 500c/m body, 80/2.8, WLF and back up for €800 but that's not exactly a steal in my book. Plus the fact that lenses are really expensive and they don't have normal filter threads I believe. Being a student I'm not exactly swimming in money

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    WLF is what I use for everything except when I shoot it out of the airplane.
    I bought mine when I wasn't swimming in cash either... but it has been worth every penny and the Digital Backs interface too.
    My other favorite but I have never owned one is the Pentax 67

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    Get a good Rolleiflex and later you will see if another device is needed. Rolleiflexes aren't the most flexible of the cameras, yet they deliver other important things, like portability and optical quality, just to name a couple.


    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxFrank View Post
    I have certainly looked at the Hasselblad 500c/m,
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    and they don't have normal filter threads I believe.
    A bay 50/60 step ring to whatever filters you already have is one way around this but I much prefer the bayonet system on the hasselblad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    Buying a Hasselblad mean that one waits longer between lens purchases. ... It is amazing what one can photograph with 'only' a normal lens.
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    I found this too. When I started out with the Hasselblad, I had only the 80mm. It was very useful to shoot with only that lens for a year or so - to get a feel for the camera - before I bought a 150mm for portraits.

    (When I was first learning 35mm, I did the same thing, shooting with only a 50mm lens for several years, because it was all I could afford. It was a Zeiss 50/1.7 on a ratty Contax 139. I took it to Europe, lost it, found it again, and just generally beat the hell out of it. It was tons of fun, and I learned to use it with my eyes closed.)

    Currently I use the 150mm lens more, but that's because I shoot portraits most of the time. Eventually, I'll add a wide-angle (40 or 50mm) to my collection, and that will be pretty much a complete set.

    About Steve's other point - that your first MF camera doesn't have to stay with you forever - he's right. It is a good idea to start with what you can afford, and then upgrade as you can.

    But I know that I'll own, and use, my Hasselblad, for the rest of my life. And, with a little maintenance, it will last that long.

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    I shot for years with a 50mm lens on a 35mm SLR. Then, one day, I was out shooting. I will usually see something that interests me and 'walk up to it', with a notion of my framing in mind. I will then adjust the framing by stepping forward or backward. On that day, I walked up, put the camera to my eye and saw the EXACT framing I had visualized.

    The next day, I ordered a new lens. It was time to 'shake things up.'
    "I only wanted Uncle Vern standing by his new car (a Hudson) on a clear day. I got him and the car. I also got a bit of Aunt Mary's laundry, and Beau Jack, the dog, peeing on a fence, and a row of potted tuberous begonias on the porch and 78 trees and a million pebbles in the driveway and more. It's a generous medium, photography." -- Lee Friedlander

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    I still consider myself 'starting' in MF and analog photography in general. My first MF camera was a very inexpensive RB67. Great negatives, but I wasn't lugging that thing around, no way. Since you like 6x6, Id give a hearty vote for an inexpensive TLR to start with. The lenses are usually great, if not fantastic. I have a Yashica 124 and more recently found a Minolta Autocord, since my Y124 is giving me some trouble. Rollei's are nice, but more spendy. I've given thought to jumping to an SLR like a bronica or 'blad, mostly for the interchangeable lenses. Instead, I've contained myself to getting a couple sets of Rolleinars (close up lenses) that have been a refreshing 'mix-up' with the fixed lens TLRs.

    When your starting, try to avoid GAS at all costs. Get a modest, competent camera and a good meter. Spend your money on film and developer and hone your craft. Sell some prints. Then buy a 'blad.

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