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    medium format coupled rangefinder

    any suggestions for a medium format coupled rangefinder that won't cost a fortune ?
    im not interested in a museum piece, but something
    i can put film through that won't be finicky ...

    i have a few holgaeque cameras but i am not a range focus fan i'd rather focus ... not guess ...

    i have thought of a moskva 4 or 5 but worry that if there is a problem
    i will never be able to get it fixed, are there folks here in the usa that fix them ?

    any suggestions of other folding cameras ( i don't want to buy them from certo6 ... )

    thanks !

    john

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    MF rangefinder:
    - Fuji have a lot of models in lot of sizes: 6 x 4.6, 6x6, 6x7, 6x9 ... give a look to those. Usually fixed lenses.
    - Mamiya series 6 and 7 are good, but they are more expensive. More flexible also.
    -Folding MF cameras are hard to find cheap and modern at the same time. The only modern I know is FUji GF670, which is a 2010 model, but not cheap.
    Neto G.

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    I have a Mamiya Super 23 & a Koni Omega Rapid.
    The Rapid is great for street and quick grab stuff.
    Bulky but worth it imo

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    Can only advise the one I own John, the superb Fujica GW690.

    http://tuitionet.blogspot.com/2008/0...90-gsw690.html


    Cheers
    Last edited by André E.C.; 07-19-2011 at 04:54 PM. Click to view previous post history. Reason: add link

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    unfortunately the manufacturing of the medium format rangefinders has always been in the low numbers, not sure if you consider pentax 67 II a museum camera, but it will add to your limited choices IMHO.
    Multum egerunt, qui ante nos fuerunt, sed non peregedunt.

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    Hi John,
    I've a fondness for the medium format folder too.
    I've not found any old folders with coupled rangefinder at reasonable prices though.

    My compromise involves a guess focus folder with a accessory rangefinder sitting in the cold shoe. I focus with the rangefinder, transfer the distance from the rf to the lens...not optimal but,
    it's all part of the fun.

    I've also resumed my love/hate relationship with an old mamiya TLR.

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    thanks for the suggestions so far ...

    while the mamiyas and pentax and fujis are nice,
    i think they are beyond my budget ...

    brad, your aux rangefinder sounds interesting ..
    is that like one of those distance measuring devices golfers use ?

    thanks for the pic steve -
    i'll keep my eyes on the classifieds more than usual -

    john

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    John,

    If the size and weight do not bother you, the Mamiya Press system is outstanding. They are cheaper than the fixed-lens Fuji RFs, and many times more versatile. They have interchangeable lenses and back, are multi-format (6x4.5, 6x6, 6x7, and 6x9 with the right backs), and they have a ground glass back if you want to focus that way. They can also be used with 2x3 Graflok accessories if you get the proper Mamiya to Graflex adapter. Let me know if you want me to send you my spare copy of the Mamiya System Handbook so you can read all about the system. Oh, yeah. You can use them for Polaroid/Fujiroid as well, if you get the Universal model.The Super 23 gives up the versatility in terms of rear attachments in order to give you limited rear movements with the 100mm lens only, or any lens when used for close-focusing. The lenses are outstanding IMO. Like all Mamiyas of the time, they are built like tanks. the best model is the Universal IMO. Find a G adapter, and you are set to shoot 6x6, 6x7, or 6x9 roll film using Graflok-compatible roll holders, plus you can shoot regular 2x3 sheet film, instead of the funky metric sheets that require dedicated Mamiya sheet film holders.
    2F/2F

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
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    brad, your aux rangefinder sounds interesting ..
    is that like one of those distance measuring devices golfers use ?

    john

    John, I sent you a PM about this....

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    Good morning, John;

    The way this thread has been wandering is interesting.

    Bruce Muir has already suggested the Koni-Omega Rapid Rangefinder 120/220 Roll Film MF camera. This camera does have the coupled rangefinder that you specified, and it is not all that expensive. If you get the Rapid-M version, you can choose either 120 or 220 film by which magazine you select. The normal lens is a 90mm, but a 58/60mm wide angle and a 180mm telephoto are also available. There was a 135mm short telephoto also, but those do not appear very often. The later versions were known as the Model 100 or Model 200, again depending on the fixed 120 magazine or the interchangeable magazines for 120 or 220 film.

    You did say that you wanted a coupled rangefinder, and there is also some consideration for finances.

    This camera actually did originate right here in the United States when at the end of World War II the US Navy called for a camera that would take 120 film, but had the handling characteristics of a 35mm rangefinder camera. It was the Simmons Brothers of Simmons Omega Enlargers who came up with the original design, but the Konishiroku Photo Industry Company, Limited of Tokyo, Japan (who made the Konica cameras and Hexanon lenses) were the ones who were able to achieve a measure of commercial success with the camera.
    Enjoy;

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